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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 674898" data-attributes="member: 158">One of my problems with point buy is that I can look at a set of ability scores for a character and immediately tell if it is point-bought or not.1. Over half of the stats end in even numbers.2. No ability is below an 8.3. One stat is a 16 or a 17, but none higher.4. Two to three of the stats end in "break points" - a 15, 14, or an 8.Despite what people say about variety in point buy, I still do not see it. Rarely do I see a point buy character with a 13, 10, 10, 10, 11, 10 - or a 16, 14, 9, 5, 10, 17. While the two sets are not value-equivalent, the former actually has one advantage over the latter, by not being below average. The character comes from what you make of it, not its relative worth in point buy.Our group uses all sorts of variants of dice rolling, based on what the DM decides for the power level of the game. Our most common one is 4d6-1d6, seven times. Keep the best six scores. I recently used 4d6-1d6, but oversaw the character's scores, and added one to two points to each character secretly, where I felt they needed it. They then rearranged their scores to taste.</blockquote>