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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 676334" data-attributes="member: 5834">ReCelebrim,Now, 40 or 50 pts is actually pretty good to me. That I would not mind. I would in fact consider that a happy compromise between my very high point total and 68 pts and 32 pts.Yet, they don't include a 40 or 50 pt option in the game book. If they did, I would be quite happy since I could actually encourage a DM to choose that option. Most DM's actually think 32 points is an extraordinary character. I just can't agree with that.Don't get me wrong here. 32 pts is "above average with one extraordinary" stat. It just isn't extraordinary in the mold of the heroes I have so often mentioned. I think D&D should have an option for the creation of such extraordinary heroes.In fact, I often feel punished by DM's that make me play a 32 or lower point character because I like to play higher statted characters. That is my preference.The thing most DM's don't get is that I would rather do without magic items than good starting stats. Give me the lowest magic in the whole group and good starting stats and I am happy as a clam. I would think there must be more players like myself who feel that good stats represent a certain type of heroic archetype they enjoy playing.</blockquote>