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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 676678" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p><strong>Re</strong></p><p></p><p>Are you trying to tell me that you don't think adventurers are some of the best people to walk the earth?</p><p></p><p>Adventurers, especially ones that survive to high level, are probably some of the best genetic stock of any human being in any game world. Basically, you get together a group of 4 to 6 people to take on challenges that would kill entire armies of average men.</p><p></p><p>Give me a break. Adventurers are those 1 in 2,000,000 people. </p><p></p><p>Like I said, give LotR a read. </p><p></p><p>None of those hobbits had average stats. If you read Tolkien's inferences, the hobbits that set forth on the journy to destroy the ring were some of the most remarkable hobbits to ever live as defined by their characteristics and actions.</p><p></p><p>I would be willing to bet that Frodo had an extraordinarily high wisdom, con, dex and intelligence, not boosted by magic.</p><p></p><p>A 32 point buy is not in line with fantasy heroes of any ilk save the lowest possible end, heroes I cannot even name because I can think of few books filled with such low end heroes. </p><p></p><p>The only reason for a 32 point buy system to be the highest possible is because too many player's that DM's have gamed with abuse high stats and the entire DnD system. Thus, DM's go out of their way to limit the potential abuse of power in a game.</p><p></p><p>That is the reason they don't make a high point buy system. Too many people abusing the advantages of high stats. I don't like to penalized because some other player acts like an idiot with a high stat character.</p><p></p><p>I don't do it. I don't allow it. I don't feel compelled to limit my players from playing high stated characters.</p><p></p><p>And until they include an option where one can make literary heroic archetypes, I choose not to use a point buy system. Just as I chose not to use the expect method of character creation until it started to reflect what I use at home.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 676678, member: 5834"] [b]Re[/b] Are you trying to tell me that you don't think adventurers are some of the best people to walk the earth? Adventurers, especially ones that survive to high level, are probably some of the best genetic stock of any human being in any game world. Basically, you get together a group of 4 to 6 people to take on challenges that would kill entire armies of average men. Give me a break. Adventurers are those 1 in 2,000,000 people. Like I said, give LotR a read. None of those hobbits had average stats. If you read Tolkien's inferences, the hobbits that set forth on the journy to destroy the ring were some of the most remarkable hobbits to ever live as defined by their characteristics and actions. I would be willing to bet that Frodo had an extraordinarily high wisdom, con, dex and intelligence, not boosted by magic. A 32 point buy is not in line with fantasy heroes of any ilk save the lowest possible end, heroes I cannot even name because I can think of few books filled with such low end heroes. The only reason for a 32 point buy system to be the highest possible is because too many player's that DM's have gamed with abuse high stats and the entire DnD system. Thus, DM's go out of their way to limit the potential abuse of power in a game. That is the reason they don't make a high point buy system. Too many people abusing the advantages of high stats. I don't like to penalized because some other player acts like an idiot with a high stat character. I don't do it. I don't allow it. I don't feel compelled to limit my players from playing high stated characters. And until they include an option where one can make literary heroic archetypes, I choose not to use a point buy system. Just as I chose not to use the expect method of character creation until it started to reflect what I use at home. [/QUOTE]
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