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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 686618" data-attributes="member: 9789">Just for the record:I really like Pax's idea about using a Point Buy system that also includes things other than just ability points, like skill points and feats and things.&nbsp; It would be hard to balance, however, since some things (like starting wealth) are so temporary and one ability point is worth so much more.&nbsp; It gets easier with the system Pax suggested, since the numbers are higher, but I think it would be interesting to see it used with the more &quot;standard&quot; PB system.&nbsp; Another interesting idea would be using this system in reverse: could you give up starting skill points or feats to boost your ability scores?I also like what buzz said about taking several standardized dice rolls and using them.&nbsp; It seems like a better &quot;point buy&quot; than the &quot;standard&quot; way, because it cancels out the racial effects someone brought up earlier.&nbsp; It also helps negate the other major problems brought up so far, which are &quot;cookie cutter&quot; characters (since you're dealing with rolls and not flat numbers, I'm sure there would be more variation), and the whole &quot;very little variety in stats&quot; thing.&nbsp; I haven't crunched any numbers to see if the specific rolls buzz suggested are, on average, more or less fair than 4d6 - 1, but I like it in principle.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 686618, member: 9789"] Just for the record: I really like Pax's idea about using a Point Buy system that also includes things other than just ability points, like skill points and feats and things. It would be hard to balance, however, since some things (like starting wealth) are so temporary and one ability point is worth so much more. It gets easier with the system Pax suggested, since the numbers are higher, but I think it would be interesting to see it used with the more "standard" PB system. Another interesting idea would be using this system in reverse: could you give up starting skill points or feats to boost your ability scores? I also like what buzz said about taking several standardized dice rolls and using them. It seems like a better "point buy" than the "standard" way, because it cancels out the racial effects someone brought up earlier. It also helps negate the other major problems brought up so far, which are "cookie cutter" characters (since you're dealing with rolls and not flat numbers, I'm sure there would be more variation), and the whole "very little variety in stats" thing. I haven't crunched any numbers to see if the specific rolls buzz suggested are, on average, more or less fair than 4d6 - 1, but I like it in principle. [/QUOTE]

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