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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9778940" data-attributes="member: 22779">I was simply providing a solution to having to deal with very large crews.&nbsp; And, by very large, I mean anything over about a dozen.&nbsp; Once you get to what I am calling platoon level, the game just doesn't work really well and you have to do all sorts of jiggery pokery to get it to work.OTOH, if you actually STICK to smaller ships, all the problems go away.&nbsp; Yes, I realize larger galleys existed, but, they are not particularly seaworthy.&nbsp; There's a very good reason they stuck to the shores of the Mediteranean and other seas.&nbsp; If you want to sail more than about 20 miles off shore, galleys don't work very well.Even on a viking longship, you're looking at about 20-30 (typically, although, yes, they could carry more) which is the absolute upper end that I'd want to deal with as a DM.&nbsp; Now, as far as the,&quot;Oh, you don't want to sink the enemy&quot;, I'd point out that Water Breathing lasts for a LONG time and affects multiple characters.&nbsp; Sink the enemy, then retrieve the treasure is not terribly out of the question for most groups.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 9778940, member: 22779"] I was simply providing a solution to having to deal with very large crews. And, by very large, I mean anything over about a dozen. Once you get to what I am calling platoon level, the game just doesn't work really well and you have to do all sorts of jiggery pokery to get it to work. OTOH, if you actually STICK to smaller ships, all the problems go away. Yes, I realize larger galleys existed, but, they are not particularly seaworthy. There's a very good reason they stuck to the shores of the Mediteranean and other seas. If you want to sail more than about 20 miles off shore, galleys don't work very well. Even on a viking longship, you're looking at about 20-30 (typically, although, yes, they could carry more) which is the absolute upper end that I'd want to deal with as a DM. Now, as far as the,"Oh, you don't want to sink the enemy", I'd point out that Water Breathing lasts for a LONG time and affects multiple characters. Sink the enemy, then retrieve the treasure is not terribly out of the question for most groups. [/QUOTE]

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