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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cthulhudrew" data-source="post: 2601067" data-attributes="member: 4090">"An elder god, bereft of much of her power, and confined to earth in a mortal shell." Without Wesley, you don't really need to dwell too much on the whole Winifred angle any more.I agree that the final season of Angel was excellent- it's the only one I'm going to pick up on DVD. The second half of the season faltered a little bit, but the first half was solid, and the show ended with a bang. I watched Angel up until the whole "Connor sleeps with Cordelia" thing- and then it all just got too painful. I kept wanting it to be more than it was, and it had some really good episodes, but mostly it just didn't quite do it for me. It seemed to me like the concept wasn't really solid- it kept moving all around and not ever quite settling, until the last season. Angel was initially described as being a show about redemption and the struggle to do the right thing, but that idea got sort of muddled. When the Fang Gang went to work for the bad guys, and had to struggle with corruption all around them, that's when it seemed like it connected; to me, it was like- here's the show it could have been all along.Plus, I loved the Angel/Spike interaction (though many didn't). The two of them play off of one another very well.</blockquote>