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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8357029" data-attributes="member: 6704184">While I think those assessments are off from the mark, I don't blame you at all for seeing the books that way. Rand in particular has a whole middle period where he refuses to budge, and then things happen that make this worse, and then eventually he has a moment of revelation that also brings spring to the land because he is the land. As for the women in the book, I'd say the latter 2/3 of the book counters that impression very well, but stay away from fandom discourse if you want to not see just...incredible amounts of psuedo-academic misogyny. Seriously...it's bad. Even when I disliked some of the female characters from my first read (back in like 2010, when the Robert Jordan was still alive), I found the discourse about Egwene and Nynaeve pretty disturbing. Later read-throughs (I did my 4th, I think, when the series was finally finished, all in one long shot through the series, skimming through some stuff I don't love in the middle), have actually brought me round to be being huge fans of both characters, but they also just flat out get better as the series goes on. All the characters do.There are parts I enjoy, but the only reason I still love Perrin is that the whole Two Rivers arc came after the slog and redeemed his whiny uncommunicative butt.Yeah, I could see maybe 2-3 episodes, at most. Stay true to the books! LOL</blockquote>