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Message: <blockquote data-quote="werk" data-source="post: 2517373" data-attributes="member: 29663">Only applies to spells that require a DF. I think this depends on the diety/alignment. Up to the DM.  Verbal components must be stated aloud, so they are easily heard.  I always pictured divine spells as being more like a prayer than the arcane incantations use by other casters...  As a DM, I'd say yes, all divine verbal components include the name of the diety, but again, dependant on the diety/alignment.  A cleric of Tyr may run a roll call of some of Tyr's names during the casting where a cleric of Mask may just say something vague like, shadow father or sneaky one.  Depends on the NPC and how the DM ruled on the questions above.  I'd say the NPC needs to make a spellcraft check (say 10+spell level) or knowledge:arcana (10+spell level) to hear specific words from the verbal component.  Both of those checks are easier than what is required to identify the spell, so I feel they are appropriate and keeps lay-people from understanding magical works.  If they make the check, then they'd need a knowledge:religion check to identify the diety.  If the NPC just sees the cleric's holy symbol, it would just be a knowledge:religion check to identify.Largely DM's call though, I just gave my opinion.</blockquote>