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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6939333" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I've been playing D&D 30 some odd years. I have no idea what 'standard D&D is'. I've seen dozens of tables. They are all different. What is the "standard Batman"? Which era? Which writer? D&D is even worse. Canon changes. Canon is ignored. Canon changes between published settings. </p><p></p><p>And in all of that I never recalled anything from TSR/WotC pushing hard any sort of analogy between typical PC races and real world cultures or ethnic groups.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which source material? We've got at least all of appendix N to review.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh good grief no. Just no. That's ridiculous. That's your bias, not his. The textual history of orcs is far more complex than that, and they are certainly not intended as neat analogies between real world races. If you read Tolkien that way, you are just missing the point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh good grief, let's not get that started again. "Cultural appropriation" isn't a thing. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Tasha? The Simbul? The Seven Sisters. You can find whatever you want. When I think of iconic D&D, I think of Dragonlance... that is Margaret Weis, and the husband and wife team of Tracy and Laura Hickman. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, first, yes I deny it, and secondly we can tell what choice you've made.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6939333, member: 4937"] I've been playing D&D 30 some odd years. I have no idea what 'standard D&D is'. I've seen dozens of tables. They are all different. What is the "standard Batman"? Which era? Which writer? D&D is even worse. Canon changes. Canon is ignored. Canon changes between published settings. And in all of that I never recalled anything from TSR/WotC pushing hard any sort of analogy between typical PC races and real world cultures or ethnic groups. Which source material? We've got at least all of appendix N to review. Oh good grief no. Just no. That's ridiculous. That's your bias, not his. The textual history of orcs is far more complex than that, and they are certainly not intended as neat analogies between real world races. If you read Tolkien that way, you are just missing the point. Oh good grief, let's not get that started again. "Cultural appropriation" isn't a thing. Tasha? The Simbul? The Seven Sisters. You can find whatever you want. When I think of iconic D&D, I think of Dragonlance... that is Margaret Weis, and the husband and wife team of Tracy and Laura Hickman. Well, first, yes I deny it, and secondly we can tell what choice you've made. [/QUOTE]
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