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<blockquote data-quote="innerdude" data-source="post: 6941326" data-attributes="member: 85870"><p>It's only tangentially related to the OP, but I couldn't let this slide by without commenting . . . . </p><p></p><p>The very notion of free speech must, by definition, include provisions to protect hateful/insensitive expressions or it is no longer valid.</p><p></p><p>Taken to its barest level, "cultural appropriation" is based on the idea that "We simply cannot allow people to do Action X or say Speech Y because it's offensive! It's too dangerous and harmful to those who might experience it!"</p><p></p><p>And in some highly narrow, circumscribed cases, the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled this is true. Some forms of speech are, in fact, too dangerous and harmful to be protected under the First Amendment. But the core conception of "cultural appropriation" falls solidly outside the use cases defined by SCOTUS legal precedent. Telling someone, "You can't do or say that because it's hurtful and insensitive to some people's feelings, and I'm going to make you stop!" is by definition an espousal of censorship. Period. </p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong---I am not saying that the pain suffered by those subject to hateful and insensitive speech is not genuine or real. But legally, the U.S. Supreme Court has evaluated the balance of free speech against the pain of those who might suffer at the hands of hateful and insensitive speech, and weighed in favor of free speech. If people get up in arms about "cultural appropriation" infringing on their <em>right </em>to be hateful and insensitive, that's because it does. While we might wish that infinitely fewer people availed themselves of their right to engage in hateful and insensitive speech, it doesn't change the fact that it's their right.</p><p></p><p>Bringing it back to the OP: we might equally wish that men playing female PCs would not avail themselves of their right to roleplay lesbian stripper ninja characters. Doesn't change the fact that it's still their right to do so* (assuming their group consents).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">*For the record, I generally have no desire to be hateful or insensitive, nor play lesbian ninja stripper PCs.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="innerdude, post: 6941326, member: 85870"] It's only tangentially related to the OP, but I couldn't let this slide by without commenting . . . . The very notion of free speech must, by definition, include provisions to protect hateful/insensitive expressions or it is no longer valid. Taken to its barest level, "cultural appropriation" is based on the idea that "We simply cannot allow people to do Action X or say Speech Y because it's offensive! It's too dangerous and harmful to those who might experience it!" And in some highly narrow, circumscribed cases, the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled this is true. Some forms of speech are, in fact, too dangerous and harmful to be protected under the First Amendment. But the core conception of "cultural appropriation" falls solidly outside the use cases defined by SCOTUS legal precedent. Telling someone, "You can't do or say that because it's hurtful and insensitive to some people's feelings, and I'm going to make you stop!" is by definition an espousal of censorship. Period. Don't get me wrong---I am not saying that the pain suffered by those subject to hateful and insensitive speech is not genuine or real. But legally, the U.S. Supreme Court has evaluated the balance of free speech against the pain of those who might suffer at the hands of hateful and insensitive speech, and weighed in favor of free speech. If people get up in arms about "cultural appropriation" infringing on their [I]right [/I]to be hateful and insensitive, that's because it does. While we might wish that infinitely fewer people availed themselves of their right to engage in hateful and insensitive speech, it doesn't change the fact that it's their right. Bringing it back to the OP: we might equally wish that men playing female PCs would not avail themselves of their right to roleplay lesbian stripper ninja characters. Doesn't change the fact that it's still their right to do so* (assuming their group consents). [SIZE=1]*For the record, I generally have no desire to be hateful or insensitive, nor play lesbian ninja stripper PCs.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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