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<blockquote data-quote="Roseweave" data-source="post: 6982943" data-attributes="member: 6806914"><p>It never ceases to amaze and worry me how completely divorced some people are from the power dynamics that exist in this world and seem to think everything goes every which way(at least in so far as it is convenient for them), and also the sheer lengths people will go to to uphold this willful ignorance. The concept of "an eye for an eye" like this exists because people don't value our lives, and/or are so insulated from our experiences that they consider minor infractions on the same scale as real world violence. When you have actual "vigilantes" threatening to shoot transgender women who dare to go to the bathroom, for example, it's not a concern, but if someone dares tell someone to check their privilege then it's some sort of atrocity.</p><p></p><p>This is part of a wider effort to muscle minorities away from spaces like this so you don't have to listen to their concerns. Only people who's narratives fit with yours are acceptable, because god forbid you care about the lives and experiences of those different to you. Trust me when you say you can't imagine what someone like me would have to do to truly extract "an eye for an eye" in recompense with the atrocities committed against people like me. You now have a situation where people have consciously pushed for the rights and protections for people like me to be removed, so more of us can be thrown onto the streets, subjugated, and killed. For there to be "an eye for an eye", we'd have to gain access to that level of institutional power and legitimately restrict the freedoms of cisgender white men and make them live in fear of rejection, unemployment, poverty and violence in a way few of them would have previously. </p><p></p><p>And yet, we're the ones that have to live with constant accusations of being "oversensitive", often from deeply sheltered and self-focused individuals that are utterly indifferent to the suffering of others that don't look like them.</p><p></p><p>Please don't accuse me of silencing people's experiences when your whole position revolves around coercing the voices of people like me into silence, of making people like me uncomfortable speaking up in places like this. I'm not going to pussyfoot around this - people who continue to obsess over the dangers of "identity politics" when people are living in fear of the rise of fascism across the western world are not good people, and we need to call that out. You know little about our struggles, you don't care about us, our lives are worth almost nothing to you and that needs to change.</p><p></p><p>You speak from a position of relative aggression and moral offence. But this doesn't affect your day to day life. It does mine. There is definitely an effort to obscure this fact among the "Anti-SJW"/anti-feminist masses and it needs to stop.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Roseweave, post: 6982943, member: 6806914"] It never ceases to amaze and worry me how completely divorced some people are from the power dynamics that exist in this world and seem to think everything goes every which way(at least in so far as it is convenient for them), and also the sheer lengths people will go to to uphold this willful ignorance. The concept of "an eye for an eye" like this exists because people don't value our lives, and/or are so insulated from our experiences that they consider minor infractions on the same scale as real world violence. When you have actual "vigilantes" threatening to shoot transgender women who dare to go to the bathroom, for example, it's not a concern, but if someone dares tell someone to check their privilege then it's some sort of atrocity. This is part of a wider effort to muscle minorities away from spaces like this so you don't have to listen to their concerns. Only people who's narratives fit with yours are acceptable, because god forbid you care about the lives and experiences of those different to you. Trust me when you say you can't imagine what someone like me would have to do to truly extract "an eye for an eye" in recompense with the atrocities committed against people like me. You now have a situation where people have consciously pushed for the rights and protections for people like me to be removed, so more of us can be thrown onto the streets, subjugated, and killed. For there to be "an eye for an eye", we'd have to gain access to that level of institutional power and legitimately restrict the freedoms of cisgender white men and make them live in fear of rejection, unemployment, poverty and violence in a way few of them would have previously. And yet, we're the ones that have to live with constant accusations of being "oversensitive", often from deeply sheltered and self-focused individuals that are utterly indifferent to the suffering of others that don't look like them. Please don't accuse me of silencing people's experiences when your whole position revolves around coercing the voices of people like me into silence, of making people like me uncomfortable speaking up in places like this. I'm not going to pussyfoot around this - people who continue to obsess over the dangers of "identity politics" when people are living in fear of the rise of fascism across the western world are not good people, and we need to call that out. You know little about our struggles, you don't care about us, our lives are worth almost nothing to you and that needs to change. You speak from a position of relative aggression and moral offence. But this doesn't affect your day to day life. It does mine. There is definitely an effort to obscure this fact among the "Anti-SJW"/anti-feminist masses and it needs to stop. [/QUOTE]
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