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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 2723582" data-attributes="member: 8439">*nod* also, the fact that I read them all at a whack may have contributed.... These conversations always make me think about some psych stuff that I then hesitate to mention because some people take it badly when they think you are putting their opinions 'on the couch'.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  But it is pretty well established that (generally) the more you have invested in something, the more favorably you are inclined to view it in retrospect. Kind of an unconsious "you get what you paid for" exchange. If I had waited a year for aSoS and taken an extra hour off work to pick it up in hardcover the day it came out.... well, I probably wouldn't have done that, because like I said earlier, it didn't "have" me at that point anyway.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> But my point is that for a book I did do that for, I would probably be more forgiving and willing to push on and put it in perspective as something that shaped the rest of the book. Not 100% willng, because that sort of 'twist' just isn't to my taste, but more willing.   I think the red wedding could have been set up to be more plausible. Walder Frey could have had a background that made such a complete abandoment of his honor more logical, Robb's love and marraige of the Random Chick Who Shows Up In The Prior Chapter could have been actually shown to us, to make the setup more natural (the one time a sex scene would have contributed and he skipped it!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> ) robb and cat could have been taken prisoner to force the army to stand down before their execution, and the gratuitous defilement of the bodies afterwards could have been skipped completely. The one part that will never make sense to me is the Tents O' Ambush. Its the sort of thing that happens in a D&D game and if you are new to the DM you try to argue it, but after a while you just roll your eyes and say "ok, this is the part where we get captured, I guess" and make choo choo noises under your breath.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></blockquote>

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