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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 9467292" data-attributes="member: 52734">Actually, it started back in 2E, when the designers stopped looking at them as a John Wayne Army Ranger and more as a Aragorn figure (because that was the playerbase archtype).  Also, as the Ranger's Tracking schtick slowly stopped being "their thing" with expanded skill rules, they started shifting toward the sneaky woodland sniper/rogue.3E leaned into this even more.  Can't speak for 4E, but in 5E they're such a mixed bag they flip-flop between what they want to be - woodsy outdoorman, druidic wannabe, animal friend, etc.  The class has lost its way because no one has come up with an ideal that's really stuck to the class like Paladin as smiter and Barbarian as rager.</blockquote>