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<blockquote data-quote="teitan" data-source="post: 9470405" data-attributes="member: 3457">Someone probably addressed this but the 1e Ranger had a D8 hit die, starting with 2 at 1st level.Now in 2e the sneaky skills from the Thief were added to the ranger along with 2 weapon fighting, essentially giving them massive damage output very early with 2 attacks per round. The 1e Ranger was also sneaky, they surprised opponents about 50% of the time (1-3 on a d6). That's a much higher success rate than a low-mid level thief.As a skirmisher it is also very inherent in the 1e Ranger, with their combat ability against &quot;giant class&quot; humanoids (which was A LOT of 1e monsters) where they got a +1 to damage for EVERY level they have attained as a ranger.I seem to be one of the few that prefers 1e rangers. I feel like they had more flavor then instead of trying to pigeon hole into a role. I generally feel that way about 1-2e and BX/BECMI in general anyway. I even prefer the old school Half-orc where they aren't so much a brawler/barbarian but more thuggish type.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="teitan, post: 9470405, member: 3457"] Someone probably addressed this but the 1e Ranger had a D8 hit die, starting with 2 at 1st level. Now in 2e the sneaky skills from the Thief were added to the ranger along with 2 weapon fighting, essentially giving them massive damage output very early with 2 attacks per round. The 1e Ranger was also sneaky, they surprised opponents about 50% of the time (1-3 on a d6). That's a much higher success rate than a low-mid level thief. As a skirmisher it is also very inherent in the 1e Ranger, with their combat ability against "giant class" humanoids (which was A LOT of 1e monsters) where they got a +1 to damage for EVERY level they have attained as a ranger. I seem to be one of the few that prefers 1e rangers. I feel like they had more flavor then instead of trying to pigeon hole into a role. I generally feel that way about 1-2e and BX/BECMI in general anyway. I even prefer the old school Half-orc where they aren't so much a brawler/barbarian but more thuggish type. [/QUOTE]

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