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<blockquote data-quote="Rodney Mulraney" data-source="post: 7217781" data-attributes="member: 6904821"><p>Isnt that circular though, since you only think they have that level of "combat awareness" because you think the hiding box that lays this stuff out is saying the creatures you hid from are engaged in melee or whatever. But that is the issue we are discussing.</p><p></p><p>The text from PHB, page 177:</p><p></p><p>"In combat, most creatures stay alert for signs of danger all around, so if you come out of hiding and approach a creature, it usually sees you. However, under certain circumstances, the DM might allow yhou to stay hidden as you approach a creature that is distracted, allowing you to gain advantage on an attack roll before you are seen"</p><p></p><p>The creature you have hidden from is not specified as being in melee or anything, it only says its in "combat", which is merely when we are going in initiative order with the expectation of engaging in attacks.</p><p></p><p>You are intrepreting that "combat" mentioned in the above quote to be actually doing/recieving attacks, whereas I am assuming they just mean that "combat sequence; more stringent initiative ordered turns"</p><p></p><p>In combat there are 8 basic actions you can take, Attack is one of them, the other seven are not so distracting, and you dont even have to take an action in your combat turn anyway.</p><p></p><p>Combat does not imply attacking, you can use an object, cast a utility spell, SEARCH, do nothing..e.tc... And that is just what you (or in this case, the creature) does, some other PC might not interact with the creature, let alone attack it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rodney Mulraney, post: 7217781, member: 6904821"] Isnt that circular though, since you only think they have that level of "combat awareness" because you think the hiding box that lays this stuff out is saying the creatures you hid from are engaged in melee or whatever. But that is the issue we are discussing. The text from PHB, page 177: "In combat, most creatures stay alert for signs of danger all around, so if you come out of hiding and approach a creature, it usually sees you. However, under certain circumstances, the DM might allow yhou to stay hidden as you approach a creature that is distracted, allowing you to gain advantage on an attack roll before you are seen" The creature you have hidden from is not specified as being in melee or anything, it only says its in "combat", which is merely when we are going in initiative order with the expectation of engaging in attacks. You are intrepreting that "combat" mentioned in the above quote to be actually doing/recieving attacks, whereas I am assuming they just mean that "combat sequence; more stringent initiative ordered turns" In combat there are 8 basic actions you can take, Attack is one of them, the other seven are not so distracting, and you dont even have to take an action in your combat turn anyway. Combat does not imply attacking, you can use an object, cast a utility spell, SEARCH, do nothing..e.tc... And that is just what you (or in this case, the creature) does, some other PC might not interact with the creature, let alone attack it. [/QUOTE]
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