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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7217886" data-attributes="member: 2525">Yes. Emphasis on "often".I do not. It's something you can sometimes do. It's not something you can do as often as you're claiming. Nothing you've offered speaks to how frequent this tactic is available to the PC. Which is my only point here. You're talking about everything concerning the topic other than the very thing I was speaking about, and acting like if you talk about a lot of things that somehow the quantity of things you mention will allow one to overlook the fact none of it is actually addressing the point being made. Nobody is disputing you can sometimes hide in combat, or that a rogue can gain benefits from it. The only thing I am disputing is that it's intended as a very frequent tactic, for every combat or (as someone else suggested) every single round of every combat. Can you address that topic or would you prefer to again repeat what others had already said, and gotten responses to, before you had even chimed in? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>