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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7218432" data-attributes="member: 16814">The rules dont say that, though.  They say "clearly seen" and leave the definition of "clearly" up to the DM.  So, your claim that "he can see you to" isn't the rule, it's your ruling.Which is your preference and your prerogative to run it like that.  The rules, however, fully support ducking in and out from behind a you-shaped rock every turn, provided the DM rules that way.  This is the beauty of the stealth rules:  they left it open so that permissive hiding is as RAW as limited hiding.</blockquote>