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<blockquote data-quote="Rodney Mulraney" data-source="post: 7218581" data-attributes="member: 6904821"><p>It is NOT down to DM adjudication whether you can hide or not. If you think it is, you not playing 5e. Sorry but you are just completely wrong about that. The RAW says you CAN DO the HIDE action; as long as you have something to hide behind. This is RAI as well, as you can easily confirm.</p><p></p><p>It is similarly NOT down to DM adjudication whether you can attack or not. Both things are core rules. If you have a weapon equipped and there is an enemy in reach, you CAN do the ATTACK action.</p><p></p><p>Neither of these things are DM adjudication issues, they are core rules of 5e.</p><p></p><p>When you do the attack action, you roll to hit, add mods and DM compares to AC, tells you if you are successful and get to roll damage... its all core rules clearly spelt out.</p><p></p><p>When you do the hide action, you move behind something that conceals you, roll stealth, and DM compares to PP, and later will tell you if got the unseen attacker, etc... again all core rules clearly spelt out.</p><p></p><p>The DM does build the world though, so the PCs ask and are told by the DM about what is in the world. The DM decides if there is a creature there for you to attempt to attack. The DM decides if there is a barrel there for you to attempt to hide behind. Later the DM might have his NPCs destroy the barrel, or have his creatures move out of range/run away... </p><p></p><p>However if the DM changes the core hit/attack mechanics on the fly or the core hide mechanics on the fly : he needs some appropriate reason for this one off, or he is just not playing according to actual 5e rules.</p><p></p><p>With hiding/keeping stealth, the DM might have to adjudicate, if the previously hid PC, when he runs out of his hid place keeps his stealth or not, depending on if there is anything there to perceive the PC and the perceivers basic level of distraction/etc... </p><p></p><p>You all seem to have accepted a misreading of the hiding rule; it is not difficult to hide in combat, it is difficult (maybe/DM decides) to keep your stealth if you MOVE out of your hiding place in combat. Just sticking out your head and bow to get sight on something to shoot from your hide place DOES NOT break your stealth, however if you take a shot you do break your stealth, but you always get the unseen attacker advantage. Again RAW and easy to confirm also RAI...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rodney Mulraney, post: 7218581, member: 6904821"] It is NOT down to DM adjudication whether you can hide or not. If you think it is, you not playing 5e. Sorry but you are just completely wrong about that. The RAW says you CAN DO the HIDE action; as long as you have something to hide behind. This is RAI as well, as you can easily confirm. It is similarly NOT down to DM adjudication whether you can attack or not. Both things are core rules. If you have a weapon equipped and there is an enemy in reach, you CAN do the ATTACK action. Neither of these things are DM adjudication issues, they are core rules of 5e. When you do the attack action, you roll to hit, add mods and DM compares to AC, tells you if you are successful and get to roll damage... its all core rules clearly spelt out. When you do the hide action, you move behind something that conceals you, roll stealth, and DM compares to PP, and later will tell you if got the unseen attacker, etc... again all core rules clearly spelt out. The DM does build the world though, so the PCs ask and are told by the DM about what is in the world. The DM decides if there is a creature there for you to attempt to attack. The DM decides if there is a barrel there for you to attempt to hide behind. Later the DM might have his NPCs destroy the barrel, or have his creatures move out of range/run away... However if the DM changes the core hit/attack mechanics on the fly or the core hide mechanics on the fly : he needs some appropriate reason for this one off, or he is just not playing according to actual 5e rules. With hiding/keeping stealth, the DM might have to adjudicate, if the previously hid PC, when he runs out of his hid place keeps his stealth or not, depending on if there is anything there to perceive the PC and the perceivers basic level of distraction/etc... You all seem to have accepted a misreading of the hiding rule; it is not difficult to hide in combat, it is difficult (maybe/DM decides) to keep your stealth if you MOVE out of your hiding place in combat. Just sticking out your head and bow to get sight on something to shoot from your hide place DOES NOT break your stealth, however if you take a shot you do break your stealth, but you always get the unseen attacker advantage. Again RAW and easy to confirm also RAI... [/QUOTE]
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