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<blockquote data-quote="Rodney Mulraney" data-source="post: 7218798" data-attributes="member: 6904821"><p>If you read your own words here it is clear that hide and stealth are different things. You stealth past guards, you hide in a bush... You dont stealth in a bush or hide past guards... Hiding is an action you do which allows you to roll a stealth check, the action is "hiding" behind, or in something. Stealth is a way of moving or being that leaves a minimal perceptual footprint.#</p><p></p><p>Alot of the confusion over stealth and hiding and is because thinking they are synomins. They are not. You always do a stealth check when you preform a hide action, but you do not always preform the hide action when you do a stealth check. Stealth past guards does not require you to hide first in something that totally visually conceals you.</p><p></p><p>I only said it was not 5e if it directly contradicts something in 5e, and obviously what is or isnt 5e is largely philosophical, I said gray area anyway.</p><p></p><p>If you make it so weapons have durability that decreases whenever you use them and need repairing/upkeep, is that 5e ? Well it doesnt really directly contradict anything, it is not in the core rules, and it would change the game somewhat. If it is still 5e well that is down to your own opinion, but how many changes or contradictory rules/mechanics to 5e do you need before its no longer 5e... about one I think... anyway I said all this in teh comment you are referring to.</p><p></p><p>Since 5e draws particular attention to DM Godly power; you could easily claim you are playing 5e when you are playing Starfinder; That is pretty extreme but between that and core 5e is largely a gray area... as a new DM I don't really care about that, I just want to know what core 5e is properly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rodney Mulraney, post: 7218798, member: 6904821"] If you read your own words here it is clear that hide and stealth are different things. You stealth past guards, you hide in a bush... You dont stealth in a bush or hide past guards... Hiding is an action you do which allows you to roll a stealth check, the action is "hiding" behind, or in something. Stealth is a way of moving or being that leaves a minimal perceptual footprint.# Alot of the confusion over stealth and hiding and is because thinking they are synomins. They are not. You always do a stealth check when you preform a hide action, but you do not always preform the hide action when you do a stealth check. Stealth past guards does not require you to hide first in something that totally visually conceals you. I only said it was not 5e if it directly contradicts something in 5e, and obviously what is or isnt 5e is largely philosophical, I said gray area anyway. If you make it so weapons have durability that decreases whenever you use them and need repairing/upkeep, is that 5e ? Well it doesnt really directly contradict anything, it is not in the core rules, and it would change the game somewhat. If it is still 5e well that is down to your own opinion, but how many changes or contradictory rules/mechanics to 5e do you need before its no longer 5e... about one I think... anyway I said all this in teh comment you are referring to. Since 5e draws particular attention to DM Godly power; you could easily claim you are playing 5e when you are playing Starfinder; That is pretty extreme but between that and core 5e is largely a gray area... as a new DM I don't really care about that, I just want to know what core 5e is properly. [/QUOTE]
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