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<blockquote data-quote="Rodney Mulraney" data-source="post: 7218859" data-attributes="member: 6904821"><p>Mistwell: </p><p></p><p>Yeah you can fluff it how you want. But in the rule books :</p><p></p><p>Stealth is a skill you have, and allows you to apply your proficiency to stealth checks. As such STEALTH is a 5e technical term with a well defined meaning, its like Medicine or Deception; other skills.</p><p></p><p>Hide is an action you can preform if the conditions are right. Again another technical term with well defined meaning.</p><p></p><p>You preform a hide action, you have a stealth skill. Hiding is an action, Stealth is a skill.</p><p></p><p>Crawfords podcast on all this is clearly differentiating in the same way the rule books do over these things.</p><p></p><p>Your own personal usage of the common terms stealth/hide and how you think about that is pretty much irrelevant. Sorry. And all your claims of personal attacks are merely in your mind, this stuff is purely objective rules mechanics talk, irrelevant of how sensitive and paranoid you might be.</p><p></p><p>Now your personal unease about my use of words and statement specifically about not being 5e, well I have clarified all this, sorry if you take offense, I keep saying I am not intending to offend, you can choose to not believe me if you want. I am interested in the mechanics of the game.</p><p></p><p>So anyway you have a particular distaste on my comment: "It is NOT down to DM adjudication whether you can hide or not. If you think it is, you not playing 5e [...]"</p><p></p><p>Again as I've already pointed out, I use the word "adjudication" specifically here for an important reason, It is in teh realm of DM is God, and DM is world builder; but not DM as adjudicator. After the DM has done his God stuff and built the world, there is no adjudication to hiding. The DM knows how he handles hiding and if the barrel is there and big enough to count as a valid place to hide. Maybe he would need to adjudicate if you are in range to move behind the barrel if you are not playing on a grid or whatever, but that is a different issue.</p><p></p><p>Anyway your personal distaste at the words I use or your personal usage of terms in a different way, these kinds of nitpicks are totally irrelevant anyway.</p><p></p><p>What matters if you we are not in agreement about the mechanics, and at this point, I cant you see what you are disagreeing with or agreeing with what I say about mechanics, so since I think your personal concerns are your own, and where it looks like I am doing something generally uncouth, I've clarified my position already and stated clearly this is mechanic talk, and appologised generally to anyway who takes offense, all I can do really is show you pity for your personal sensitivity. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>I understand people can be sensitive and already applogised and do watch what I say and clarify based on that, your personality is too extreme for me to consider writting everything in a way that would not strike up some internal paranoia within you, its just too much effort for such a minority of people, sorry <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rodney Mulraney, post: 7218859, member: 6904821"] Mistwell: Yeah you can fluff it how you want. But in the rule books : Stealth is a skill you have, and allows you to apply your proficiency to stealth checks. As such STEALTH is a 5e technical term with a well defined meaning, its like Medicine or Deception; other skills. Hide is an action you can preform if the conditions are right. Again another technical term with well defined meaning. You preform a hide action, you have a stealth skill. Hiding is an action, Stealth is a skill. Crawfords podcast on all this is clearly differentiating in the same way the rule books do over these things. Your own personal usage of the common terms stealth/hide and how you think about that is pretty much irrelevant. Sorry. And all your claims of personal attacks are merely in your mind, this stuff is purely objective rules mechanics talk, irrelevant of how sensitive and paranoid you might be. Now your personal unease about my use of words and statement specifically about not being 5e, well I have clarified all this, sorry if you take offense, I keep saying I am not intending to offend, you can choose to not believe me if you want. I am interested in the mechanics of the game. So anyway you have a particular distaste on my comment: "It is NOT down to DM adjudication whether you can hide or not. If you think it is, you not playing 5e [...]" Again as I've already pointed out, I use the word "adjudication" specifically here for an important reason, It is in teh realm of DM is God, and DM is world builder; but not DM as adjudicator. After the DM has done his God stuff and built the world, there is no adjudication to hiding. The DM knows how he handles hiding and if the barrel is there and big enough to count as a valid place to hide. Maybe he would need to adjudicate if you are in range to move behind the barrel if you are not playing on a grid or whatever, but that is a different issue. Anyway your personal distaste at the words I use or your personal usage of terms in a different way, these kinds of nitpicks are totally irrelevant anyway. What matters if you we are not in agreement about the mechanics, and at this point, I cant you see what you are disagreeing with or agreeing with what I say about mechanics, so since I think your personal concerns are your own, and where it looks like I am doing something generally uncouth, I've clarified my position already and stated clearly this is mechanic talk, and appologised generally to anyway who takes offense, all I can do really is show you pity for your personal sensitivity. :( I understand people can be sensitive and already applogised and do watch what I say and clarify based on that, your personality is too extreme for me to consider writting everything in a way that would not strike up some internal paranoia within you, its just too much effort for such a minority of people, sorry :( [/QUOTE]
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