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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8547322" data-attributes="member: 82106">It seems like this has always been the general intent in every edition. It is particularly straightforward when dealing with ongoing personal effects like haste or slow, or something like Protection from Evil. One of the issues in AD&amp;D days was most enemies are monsters, and they work by somewhat different rules, making it harder to know what can and cannot be countered. 3e has elaborate rules around that point. 4e simply reduced everything to an effect with a duration, or else a condition, which was pretty simple. 5e's solution mainly works because of the nature of 5e casting. You can memorize something like Counterspell, and then if you don't use it, you are not out much, except some opportunity cost. In 4e, 3e, or 'classic' D&amp;D you've tied up a 'slot' that won't be usable for anything else, so it is ALMOST always sub-optimal to pick a spell or other ability that does nothing but counter other things. Old School Dispel Magic at least had many potential uses besides as direct counter magic. Counterspell per se would not work in something like 2e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8547322, member: 82106"] It seems like this has always been the general intent in every edition. It is particularly straightforward when dealing with ongoing personal effects like haste or slow, or something like Protection from Evil. One of the issues in AD&D days was most enemies are monsters, and they work by somewhat different rules, making it harder to know what can and cannot be countered. 3e has elaborate rules around that point. 4e simply reduced everything to an effect with a duration, or else a condition, which was pretty simple. 5e's solution mainly works because of the nature of 5e casting. You can memorize something like Counterspell, and then if you don't use it, you are not out much, except some opportunity cost. In 4e, 3e, or 'classic' D&D you've tied up a 'slot' that won't be usable for anything else, so it is ALMOST always sub-optimal to pick a spell or other ability that does nothing but counter other things. Old School Dispel Magic at least had many potential uses besides as direct counter magic. Counterspell per se would not work in something like 2e. [/QUOTE]

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