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<blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 2308271" data-attributes="member: 2477">No offense, but that's silly.All you gnome haters really need to realize that some of us love gnomes. Just because you don't &quot;get&quot; them, doesn't mean they should be removed from the game, or that they're somehow wrong. D&amp;D is about options, and you want to remove an option that others like and you don't.For the record, the lack of a gnome stereotype is why I like them. Gnomes are magical, they're tricksters that use illusion. They were also sort of tough in earlier editions (lack of a Str penalty) and somewhat in 3e (Con bonus). The tinkers were inventive, though a bit overboard.Basically, gnomes have always been about Inspiration (or Passion, as above), and it's great to play a character like that. I don't play ONLY gnomes, and I'd certainly not vote to remove races other players enjoyed (unless you ditch them all and go to point based or template open creation).And, one of the things that ticked me off with AU even before print, was the comments about throwing in something for people that liked the short races. I don't know why people that don't like the races must get so derogatory about it, but Gnomes being Small sized is incidental to the race, IMO.&quot;We don't need more than 1 small race&quot;We don't need more Medium races either then.Having gnomes in the book detracts from the book that much for you folks? Just ignore them if you don't like them, like a lot of people do with Dwarves.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vocenoctum, post: 2308271, member: 2477"] No offense, but that's silly. All you gnome haters really need to realize that some of us love gnomes. Just because you don't "get" them, doesn't mean they should be removed from the game, or that they're somehow wrong. D&D is about options, and you want to remove an option that others like and you don't. For the record, the lack of a gnome stereotype is why I like them. Gnomes are magical, they're tricksters that use illusion. They were also sort of tough in earlier editions (lack of a Str penalty) and somewhat in 3e (Con bonus). The tinkers were inventive, though a bit overboard. Basically, gnomes have always been about Inspiration (or Passion, as above), and it's great to play a character like that. I don't play ONLY gnomes, and I'd certainly not vote to remove races other players enjoyed (unless you ditch them all and go to point based or template open creation). And, one of the things that ticked me off with AU even before print, was the comments about throwing in something for people that liked the short races. I don't know why people that don't like the races must get so derogatory about it, but Gnomes being Small sized is incidental to the race, IMO. "We don't need more than 1 small race" We don't need more Medium races either then. Having gnomes in the book detracts from the book that much for you folks? Just ignore them if you don't like them, like a lot of people do with Dwarves. [/QUOTE]

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