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<blockquote data-quote="Sunderstone" data-source="post: 4519128" data-attributes="member: 23497">with all due respect but..... &quot;lol&quot;.Ill follow that up with an agreement with ProfessorCirno, im seeing a much bigger split of the fanbase this time around than any other.Disclaimer #2.... The following is my uninformed yet consumer-ish opinion....Regardless of how successful 4E &quot;really&quot; is <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> , I also believe WotC had to go this route no matter what. Bottom line is that their products after the Core and OGL have not been on par with the quality of some 3PPs. There were some gems here and there but few and far-between. While WotC may have had most of the market because of the &quot;Official&quot; seal itself, some 3PPs like Necro, Goodman, Green Ronin, Malhavoc, and later Paizo probably cut into their profit margin by consistently releasing better product. This was a no-brainer... &quot;the ogl effed us up, we are losing sales, lets make a new edition so we can keep a tighter hold of the market with less competition (the draconic but necessary GSL) this time&quot;.End Disclaimer from an uninformed yet consumer-ish opinion.Someone else said (as many others have said).... &quot;Play whatever edition you want&quot;. This is what most of us non-4E fans have done and will continue to do by supporting other companies we like. I'd appreciate if we could drop the &quot;embrace, adapt, evolve with the game&quot; though. I really do not want to embrace the current edition for whatever reason, and imho the game hasnt evolved at all. Its just taking a turn elsewhere.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sunderstone, post: 4519128, member: 23497"] with all due respect but..... "lol". Ill follow that up with an agreement with ProfessorCirno, im seeing a much bigger split of the fanbase this time around than any other. [B]Disclaimer #2[/B].... The following is my uninformed yet consumer-ish opinion.... Regardless of how successful 4E "really" is ;) , I also believe WotC had to go this route no matter what. Bottom line is that their products after the Core and OGL have not been on par with the quality of some 3PPs. There were some gems here and there but few and far-between. While WotC may have had most of the market because of the "Official" seal itself, some 3PPs like Necro, Goodman, Green Ronin, Malhavoc, and later Paizo probably cut into their profit margin by consistently releasing better product. This was a no-brainer... "the ogl effed us up, we are losing sales, lets make a new edition so we can keep a tighter hold of the market with less competition (the draconic but necessary GSL) this time". [B]End Disclaimer[/B] from an uninformed yet consumer-ish opinion. Someone else said (as many others have said).... "Play whatever edition you want". This is what most of us non-4E fans have done and will continue to do by supporting other companies we like. I'd appreciate if we could drop the "embrace, adapt, evolve with the game" though. I really do not want to embrace the current edition for whatever reason, and imho the game hasnt evolved at all. Its just taking a turn elsewhere. [/QUOTE]

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