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<blockquote data-quote="UngainlyTitan" data-source="post: 4519913" data-attributes="member: 28487">To the OP. well Jeff, did&nbsp; you find anything helpful in all the fire and smoke.As for my tuppence worth. I don't think that anyone that was fundamently happy with 3e would be happy with an edition that changed thing in any major way. I believe that 4e was going to change things because WOTC need to sell stuff to keep going and I suspect that a Saga-ised 4e would not have extended the mathematical sweet spot enough to sell as many books as they envisioned. If we look now, to get what we had in the core 3e we will at least 5 books. The current core 3 gives you fighter, paladin, cleric, ranger, rogue, warlock, warlord and wizard. To get ranger pets we need another book and at lest one more (and perhaps 2 I am not sure) to get Druid, Bard, Barbarian and Sorcerer. Probably another couple of books for psionics. Not to mention the books for the necromancer, illusionist and enchanterThe classes are pretty tightly focussed and the maths is pretty well worked out so I can see alot more book being brought out without greatly upsetting the power balance. Could they have done this in a Saga-ised D&amp;D, I dunno, maybe maybe not.However, I also reckon they wanted to reclaim their IP. Hence all the problems with the GSL. I suspect that this is linked to the DDI initiative and desire to create a subscription revenue stream for access to WoTC ip.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="UngainlyTitan, post: 4519913, member: 28487"] To the OP. well Jeff, did you find anything helpful in all the fire and smoke. As for my tuppence worth. I don't think that anyone that was fundamently happy with 3e would be happy with an edition that changed thing in any major way. I believe that 4e was going to change things because WOTC need to sell stuff to keep going and I suspect that a Saga-ised 4e would not have extended the mathematical sweet spot enough to sell as many books as they envisioned. If we look now, to get what we had in the core 3e we will at least 5 books. The current core 3 gives you fighter, paladin, cleric, ranger, rogue, warlock, warlord and wizard. To get ranger pets we need another book and at lest one more (and perhaps 2 I am not sure) to get Druid, Bard, Barbarian and Sorcerer. Probably another couple of books for psionics. Not to mention the books for the necromancer, illusionist and enchanter The classes are pretty tightly focussed and the maths is pretty well worked out so I can see alot more book being brought out without greatly upsetting the power balance. Could they have done this in a Saga-ised D&D, I dunno, maybe maybe not. However, I also reckon they wanted to reclaim their IP. Hence all the problems with the GSL. I suspect that this is linked to the DDI initiative and desire to create a subscription revenue stream for access to WoTC ip. [/QUOTE]

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