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<blockquote data-quote="Shroomy" data-source="post: 4525410" data-attributes="member: 32739">I agree that in some campaigns, the ability to compose and/or perform poetry would be more useful than his physical skills, but that's beside the point (and even then, you're probably talking about a minority of campaigns).&nbsp; I'm not even sure if Craft would be the correct skill in this case (personally, I would lean towards Perform since from my reading, the Craft skills seem to cover actually building an object), but I would argue that low skill points that a fighter receives is more or less a disincentive to choosing these type of RP skills.&nbsp; At least, that seemed to be the designer's intent, even if enterprising players and DMs could adapt the system to serve their specific purposes.In 4e, if the ability to compose poetry became mechanically relevant to the game (and in most cases, IMO, it won't be), an ability check + half level against the appropriate ability check DCs (which come in easy, medium, and hard and are scaled differently than skill check DCs due to the lack of training and skill focus) seems to me a better form of general mechanical support for these types of situations.&nbsp; Also, the DMG pretty much encourages you to give circumstance bonuses in these types of situations if you have a good reason, and being a haiku spouting fighter seems like a good reason to give a +2 bonus to the roll, at least to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shroomy, post: 4525410, member: 32739"] I agree that in some campaigns, the ability to compose and/or perform poetry would be more useful than his physical skills, but that's beside the point (and even then, you're probably talking about a minority of campaigns). I'm not even sure if Craft would be the correct skill in this case (personally, I would lean towards Perform since from my reading, the Craft skills seem to cover actually building an object), but I would argue that low skill points that a fighter receives is more or less a disincentive to choosing these type of RP skills. At least, that seemed to be the designer's intent, even if enterprising players and DMs could adapt the system to serve their specific purposes. In 4e, if the ability to compose poetry became mechanically relevant to the game (and in most cases, IMO, it won't be), an ability check + half level against the appropriate ability check DCs (which come in easy, medium, and hard and are scaled differently than skill check DCs due to the lack of training and skill focus) seems to me a better form of general mechanical support for these types of situations. Also, the DMG pretty much encourages you to give circumstance bonuses in these types of situations if you have a good reason, and being a haiku spouting fighter seems like a good reason to give a +2 bonus to the roll, at least to me. [/QUOTE]

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