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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4525432" data-attributes="member: 2067">You know, if it was in the rules (and well done in the rules), I'm sure there'd be more DM's who cared about it. Or at least, those who were even inclined to care about it would be persuaded to bring it out. Don't put the cart before the horse -- the core rules tell you what the game is about, and if they don't care about the haiku-fighter, why should your DM?I'm not speaking about dictums. There's nothing in Monopoly that tells you you can't have immersive roleplay, either. Still, few people do it because there is no reason to. The rules certainly don't tell you to.By having less rules for how well my fighter can spin haikus than 3e, 4e gives me less support. That's not to say I can't add it, of course I can. That is to say that 4e doesn't give me that.I can add haikus to my fighter like I can roleplay in Monopoly, and, in both cases, there isn't enough incentive or payoff for me as a player. I certainly don't create fighters who can compose haikus just to amuse myself. I want an effect on the game, because it is the game that amuses me. 4e doesn't give me that, and while I can certainly force it in, it doesn't make the game better because it excludes it. In fact, for me, it makes the game worse.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 4525432, member: 2067"] You know, if it was in the rules (and well done in the rules), I'm sure there'd be more DM's who cared about it. Or at least, those who were even inclined to care about it would be persuaded to bring it out. Don't put the cart before the horse -- the core rules tell you what the game is about, and if they don't care about the haiku-fighter, why should your DM? I'm not speaking about dictums. There's nothing in Monopoly that tells you you can't have immersive roleplay, either. Still, few people do it because [I]there is no reason to[/I]. The rules certainly don't tell you to. By having less rules for how well my fighter can spin haikus than 3e, 4e gives me less support. That's not to say I can't add it, of course I can. That is to say that 4e doesn't [B]give[/B] me that. I can add haikus to my fighter like I can roleplay in Monopoly, and, in both cases, there isn't enough incentive or payoff for me as a player. I certainly don't create fighters who can compose haikus just to amuse myself. I want an effect on the game, because it is the game that amuses me. 4e doesn't give me that, and while I can certainly force it in, it doesn't make the game better because it excludes it. In fact, for me, it makes the game worse. [/QUOTE]

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