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When did Kwalish go from Human to Gnome?
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<blockquote data-quote="touc" data-source="post: 9828252" data-attributes="member: 19270"><p>Interviews with the artifact's namesake <strong>Tim Kask </strong>gives some clues, though he never actually says what Kwalish was. Most of this is taken from his years-long Q&A on the Dragonfoot forums:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Kask was a first employee and early and prominent editor for O(School)D&D back in the 1970s-1980s (he was responsible for magic missiles never missing among other things).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He was once responsible for getting out <em>Dragon </em>Magazine and wrote an <a href="https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/search.php?keywords=kwalish&t=23223&sf=msgonly&sid=585ec1e7b6c2e3ff126002bf88d93c31" target="_blank">article under the pseudonym Omar Kwalish</a> (Dragon Issue #7, about when you forget your dice, a popular article he said was created under a bong haze the night before the magazine needed a full page of something). (2008 answer).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In 1974, Kask ran a campaign for his friends in which <a href="https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/search.php?keywords=kwalish&t=23223&sf=msgonly&sid=585ec1e7b6c2e3ff126002bf88d93c31" target="_blank"><strong>the bad guy was called "Kwalish."</strong></a> (2013 answer). <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Kask added that many of the artifacts were named after themselves or things from their campaigns (a precursor to "easter eggs" in video games). When someone needed a name for their crawdad contraption, Kwalish came up. (The <em>Sword of Kas<s>k</s> </em>was also named for him).</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/search.php?keywords=kwalish&t=23223&sf=msgonly&sid=585ec1e7b6c2e3ff126002bf88d93c31" target="_blank">Kwalish started out as Kask's PC when he was in high school.</a> However, he rarely got to play, so Kwalish became a go-to NPC that other players could hire or for magical services. (2008 answer).<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Kwalish owned several cool magical apparatuses and items. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Kask didn't DM a ton, but he planned on doing a convention adventure <em>The Hall of Wonders, </em>a place where the powerful mage Kwalish stored his cache of cool items.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In a 2007 answer, Kask said Kwalish was his 1st PC. He then turned him into a mythical NPC during college for his gamers, in the Kwalishar Ruins. He says (in small print) that user "grodog" may have campaign notes.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">As referenced by [USER=8461]@Alzrius[/USER], the link provides some more lore and Kwalish references. One of our own mods in 2016 visualized Kwalish as a gnome despite the game rules that, at the time, didn't allow for it to fit a high-level enchanter. </li> </ul><p></p><p><strong>Here's where I argue that Kwalish wasn't a gnome</strong>, absent Mr. Kask saying otherwise. In OD&D, gnomes could NOT be the class Magic-User. Instead, there was a separate class called the <em>Illusionist </em>that they could advance in (usually multi-classed because demihumans often capped out before level 20). You wouldn't use the two interchangeably. If you were playing a magic user, you wouldn't be playing a gnome. If you wanted to advance to level 20 as a caster (and with the description of Kwalish as an ultra powerful caster), you'd have to play a Human. Further, the item was originally described in the DMG (p137) as being fitted for "two human-sized persons" (not gnome-sized). Also, in OD&D, gnomes weren't inventors and craftsmen. That didn't come till later, so Kwalish as a gnome is more a modern take than an original take.</p><p></p><p>That all said, it probably really doesn't matter except to perhaps Mr. Kask, but to answer the original question, I don't see it ever being covered specifically in any prior edition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="touc, post: 9828252, member: 19270"] Interviews with the artifact's namesake [B]Tim Kask [/B]gives some clues, though he never actually says what Kwalish was. Most of this is taken from his years-long Q&A on the Dragonfoot forums: [LIST] [*]Kask was a first employee and early and prominent editor for O(School)D&D back in the 1970s-1980s (he was responsible for magic missiles never missing among other things). [*]He was once responsible for getting out [I]Dragon [/I]Magazine and wrote an [URL='https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/search.php?keywords=kwalish&t=23223&sf=msgonly&sid=585ec1e7b6c2e3ff126002bf88d93c31']article under the pseudonym Omar Kwalish[/URL] (Dragon Issue #7, about when you forget your dice, a popular article he said was created under a bong haze the night before the magazine needed a full page of something). (2008 answer). [*]In 1974, Kask ran a campaign for his friends in which [URL='https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/search.php?keywords=kwalish&t=23223&sf=msgonly&sid=585ec1e7b6c2e3ff126002bf88d93c31'][B]the bad guy was called "Kwalish."[/B][/URL] (2013 answer).[B] [/B] [LIST] [*]Kask added that many of the artifacts were named after themselves or things from their campaigns (a precursor to "easter eggs" in video games). When someone needed a name for their crawdad contraption, Kwalish came up. (The [I]Sword of Kas[S]k[/S] [/I]was also named for him). [/LIST] [*][URL='https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/search.php?keywords=kwalish&t=23223&sf=msgonly&sid=585ec1e7b6c2e3ff126002bf88d93c31']Kwalish started out as Kask's PC when he was in high school.[/URL] However, he rarely got to play, so Kwalish became a go-to NPC that other players could hire or for magical services. (2008 answer). [LIST] [*]Kwalish owned several cool magical apparatuses and items. [*]Kask didn't DM a ton, but he planned on doing a convention adventure [I]The Hall of Wonders, [/I]a place where the powerful mage Kwalish stored his cache of cool items. [*]In a 2007 answer, Kask said Kwalish was his 1st PC. He then turned him into a mythical NPC during college for his gamers, in the Kwalishar Ruins. He says (in small print) that user "grodog" may have campaign notes. [/LIST] [*]As referenced by [USER=8461]@Alzrius[/USER], the link provides some more lore and Kwalish references. One of our own mods in 2016 visualized Kwalish as a gnome despite the game rules that, at the time, didn't allow for it to fit a high-level enchanter. [/LIST] [B]Here's where I argue that Kwalish wasn't a gnome[/B], absent Mr. Kask saying otherwise. In OD&D, gnomes could NOT be the class Magic-User. Instead, there was a separate class called the [I]Illusionist [/I]that they could advance in (usually multi-classed because demihumans often capped out before level 20).[I] [/I]You wouldn't use the two interchangeably. If you were playing a magic user, you wouldn't be playing a gnome. If you wanted to advance to level 20 as a caster (and with the description of Kwalish as an ultra powerful caster), you'd have to play a Human. Further, the item was originally described in the DMG (p137) as being fitted for "two human-sized persons" (not gnome-sized). Also, in OD&D, gnomes weren't inventors and craftsmen. That didn't come till later, so Kwalish as a gnome is more a modern take than an original take. That all said, it probably really doesn't matter except to perhaps Mr. Kask, but to answer the original question, I don't see it ever being covered specifically in any prior edition. [/QUOTE]
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