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Message: <blockquote data-quote="InVinoVeritas" data-source="post: 7530214" data-attributes="member: 41485">It sounds like what people are forgetting is that the reason the five 20s on the table were there was because if you needed to roll a 21, then without bonuses, hitting the target was impossible. Not just "you can only hit on a natural 20", but impossible. Those 20s were there to extend the range that hitting on a natural 20 still worked.In practice, no one played with that rule, because no one wanted a 20 to go to waste. So lots of people thought a 21 was the same thing as a 20. But then again, since the rules in 1e were more like guidelines anyway, it bothered no one.ETA: Why are we debating this anyway? This thread is about mixing editions, not how THAC0 works or doesn't.</blockquote>