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When did the Fighter become "defender"?
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<blockquote data-quote="ForeverSlayer" data-source="post: 5908948" data-attributes="member: 91812"><p>Why can't they? An unarmed naked fighter still has all his feats while the naked casters may not even have spells left. These obnoxious scenarios don't prove anything. We can have butt naked fighters and monks but the butt naked casters have all their spells ready and intact. Do you see how certain situations get dressed up to try and support an argument? Melee people suck because they accept buffs from spellcasters and melee people always seem to be put in these hypothetical situations where people try and make them out to be horrible classes that can't do anything. </p><p></p><p>Neonchameleon isn't right about his opinion on the matter because myself and a lot of other people don't agree. His view is highly subjective and arguable to the point of a stalemate. No class out there can do it all, there is no class that handle every situation that arises, sometimes a situation will come up that you need help from your other players because, in case some people have forgotten, that it's a team game. 4th edition didn't bring anything new to the table when it comes to teamwork, it only made the game where you essentially don't have a choice. </p><p></p><p>Now my views on 4th edition are subjective and open to arguments but at least I am man enough to own up to it. I don't keep spouting off about how my subjective views are right while everyone else's is wrong. But what I am right about is the fact that I don't like 4th edition now matter how much someone is telling me I am playing the game wrong. I have played 4th edition since it came out along with 27 years of gaming experience so I know if I like a game or I don't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ForeverSlayer, post: 5908948, member: 91812"] Why can't they? An unarmed naked fighter still has all his feats while the naked casters may not even have spells left. These obnoxious scenarios don't prove anything. We can have butt naked fighters and monks but the butt naked casters have all their spells ready and intact. Do you see how certain situations get dressed up to try and support an argument? Melee people suck because they accept buffs from spellcasters and melee people always seem to be put in these hypothetical situations where people try and make them out to be horrible classes that can't do anything. Neonchameleon isn't right about his opinion on the matter because myself and a lot of other people don't agree. His view is highly subjective and arguable to the point of a stalemate. No class out there can do it all, there is no class that handle every situation that arises, sometimes a situation will come up that you need help from your other players because, in case some people have forgotten, that it's a team game. 4th edition didn't bring anything new to the table when it comes to teamwork, it only made the game where you essentially don't have a choice. Now my views on 4th edition are subjective and open to arguments but at least I am man enough to own up to it. I don't keep spouting off about how my subjective views are right while everyone else's is wrong. But what I am right about is the fact that I don't like 4th edition now matter how much someone is telling me I am playing the game wrong. I have played 4th edition since it came out along with 27 years of gaming experience so I know if I like a game or I don't. [/QUOTE]
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