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<blockquote data-quote="Siberys" data-source="post: 4593320" data-attributes="member: 30619"><p>I really don't get this sentiment. 4e <em>can't</em> come in and rearrange your furniture <em>unless</em> you let it. You think 1/2/3e was great? Keep playing, and don't play 4e. I won't stop you, and no one else will, either. (I happen to be in a running 3e game 'cause the GM doesn't like 4e.) If people feel the designers have gone too far with 4e, those people don't play 4e.</p><p></p><p>Plus, many, MANY people felt 3e WAS broken. I was among them; my house rules were so complex, I was considering releasing them as a <em>seperate game</em> under OGL <em>just to get them all in a convenient place</em>. 4e made many of the changes I'd made, and wrapped the system more professionally than I ever would have. It might help to think of 4e as a whole new game, as opposed to the new D&D. They didn't throw the furniture out of YOUR house; they bought a whole new house and began furnishing it themselves.</p><p></p><p>The only logical reason I can see for resenting a new edition (and, thereby, not trusting those designers) is for the stop of products for the current edition. But we all saw 4e coming ages ago; I remember an old home-made 4e icon having been on the front pages of ENWorld for AGES as a joke. And 5e will be here eventually, too. And if I don't like it, there will be no "grandma"ing - I just won't use it.</p><p></p><p>Anyways, as for the original topic... caveat emptor, as others have said. I trust a designer to do his best, because if he doesn't I won't buy his stuff. Beyond that, I change stuff I like but don't think works, sometimes just for the sheer fun of houseruling. And the stuff I don't like, I ban. Simple.</p><p></p><p>Another example of this I've seen is poeple pissed about the new cosmology. I can understand not liking a change to your favorite setting (I'd be pissed if Eberron <em>did</em> advance two years, for example), but with fluff, like the planes, you can just say "We don't use the new stuff. The planes operate like the Great Wheel." I've seen people do it with alignment; and if Eberron did advance two years, I'd still run my games in 998 YK.</p><p></p><p>Anyways, that's my 2 coppers. And I'm sorry for the over-extended metaphor <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Siberys, post: 4593320, member: 30619"] I really don't get this sentiment. 4e [i]can't[/i] come in and rearrange your furniture [i]unless[/i] you let it. You think 1/2/3e was great? Keep playing, and don't play 4e. I won't stop you, and no one else will, either. (I happen to be in a running 3e game 'cause the GM doesn't like 4e.) If people feel the designers have gone too far with 4e, those people don't play 4e. Plus, many, MANY people felt 3e WAS broken. I was among them; my house rules were so complex, I was considering releasing them as a [i]seperate game[/i] under OGL [i]just to get them all in a convenient place[/i]. 4e made many of the changes I'd made, and wrapped the system more professionally than I ever would have. It might help to think of 4e as a whole new game, as opposed to the new D&D. They didn't throw the furniture out of YOUR house; they bought a whole new house and began furnishing it themselves. The only logical reason I can see for resenting a new edition (and, thereby, not trusting those designers) is for the stop of products for the current edition. But we all saw 4e coming ages ago; I remember an old home-made 4e icon having been on the front pages of ENWorld for AGES as a joke. And 5e will be here eventually, too. And if I don't like it, there will be no "grandma"ing - I just won't use it. Anyways, as for the original topic... caveat emptor, as others have said. I trust a designer to do his best, because if he doesn't I won't buy his stuff. Beyond that, I change stuff I like but don't think works, sometimes just for the sheer fun of houseruling. And the stuff I don't like, I ban. Simple. Another example of this I've seen is poeple pissed about the new cosmology. I can understand not liking a change to your favorite setting (I'd be pissed if Eberron [i]did[/i] advance two years, for example), but with fluff, like the planes, you can just say "We don't use the new stuff. The planes operate like the Great Wheel." I've seen people do it with alignment; and if Eberron did advance two years, I'd still run my games in 998 YK. Anyways, that's my 2 coppers. And I'm sorry for the over-extended metaphor :lol: [/QUOTE]
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