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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 4593571" data-attributes="member: 59506">I have to say I'm with those that didn't understand the idea quoted above (top), and I also don't understand the second one quoted here.&nbsp;I understand your allegory, I just don't understand how it applies to the situation.&nbsp;This is less a case of someone coming into your house and rearanging your furniture, as it is someone came onto your block and built a new house next door to yours.&nbsp; It may be a house you don't like, it may even be a house you feel lowers your overall property value for your neighborhood (translation: lessens RPG's in general - although this is where the allegory doesn't work since I don't see how this could be possible).&nbsp; But in the end, it changes absolutely nothing about your enjoyment of your house.&nbsp; Also, if 4E (the new house) is really as bad as you think it is, all it can do in the long run is make your house (your favorite rules set) look better.&nbsp; It seems like that would be something favorable to your position.&nbsp; I've always been of the philosophy that quality speaks for itself.&nbsp; The same holds true for lack of quality.&nbsp; If 4E is as bad as you think, then people will see it for what it is without people having to express it so forcefully and vocally.&nbsp; However, I've found that being overly forceful and vocal in criticizing something, tends to have the opposite effect.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm&nbsp; &nbsp; :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" />&nbsp;However, I don't want you to think I have a problem with your opinions.&nbsp; Your opinions are just as valid as everyone elses.&nbsp; I'm just puzzled by the logic of your approach, and the sense of animosity towards a system?&nbsp; I myself don't prefer 4E, which is why I stick to my houseruled 3E.&nbsp; But I don't have any animosity toward the system or those who designed it.&nbsp; My question is, what have they done to you personally, that so warrants feelings of animosity against them?&nbsp; I'm just curious.&nbsp;Also, how can there be an &quot;acceptable&quot; amount of change to &quot;the game&quot;?&nbsp; Especially when &quot;your game&quot; hasn't changed at all?&nbsp; Nobody came in and erased the OGL SRD, or forcibly removed any and all trace of previous editions from online game stores, or more importantly, your own house.&nbsp; &quot;Your&quot; game, is as unchanged as it was before 4E released (that is unless you changed it, which is always your perogative).&nbsp; I just don't get it?&nbsp; Saying the changes aren't too your approval or preference is understandable.&nbsp; Saying changes weren't good, or were poorly thought out or executed is also understandable, along with many other stated opinions, both yours and others.&nbsp; But &quot;Crossed the line of acceptable amount of change to the game.&quot;?&nbsp; Ehhh, I don't understand this.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm&nbsp; &nbsp; :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 4593571, member: 59506"] I have to say I'm with those that didn't understand the idea quoted above (top), and I also don't understand the second one quoted here. I understand your allegory, I just don't understand how it applies to the situation. This is less a case of someone coming into your house and rearanging your furniture, as it is someone came onto your block and built a new house next door to yours. It may be a house you don't like, it may even be a house you feel lowers your overall property value for your neighborhood (translation: lessens RPG's in general - although this is where the allegory doesn't work since I don't see how this could be possible). But in the end, it changes absolutely nothing about your enjoyment of your house. Also, if 4E (the new house) is really as bad as you think it is, all it can do in the long run is make your house (your favorite rules set) look better. It seems like that would be something favorable to your position. I've always been of the philosophy that quality speaks for itself. The same holds true for lack of quality. If 4E is as bad as you think, then people will see it for what it is without people having to express it so forcefully and vocally. However, I've found that being overly forceful and vocal in criticizing something, tends to have the opposite effect.:hmm: However, I don't want you to think I have a problem with your opinions. Your opinions are just as valid as everyone elses. I'm just puzzled by the logic of your approach, and the sense of animosity towards a system? I myself don't prefer 4E, which is why I stick to my houseruled 3E. But I don't have any animosity toward the system or those who designed it. My question is, what have they done to you personally, that so warrants feelings of animosity against them? I'm just curious. Also, how can there be an "acceptable" amount of change to "the game"? Especially when "your game" hasn't changed at all? Nobody came in and erased the OGL SRD, or forcibly removed any and all trace of previous editions from online game stores, or more importantly, your own house. "Your" game, is as unchanged as it was before 4E released (that is unless you changed it, which is always your perogative). I just don't get it? Saying the changes aren't too your approval or preference is understandable. Saying changes weren't good, or were poorly thought out or executed is also understandable, along with many other stated opinions, both yours and others. But [I]"Crossed the line of acceptable amount of change to the game."[/I]? Ehhh, I don't understand this.:erm: [/QUOTE]

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