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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5531316" data-attributes="member: 82106">Frankly I think the issue to a large extent is certain people wanted the game to go in a different direction than it has lately. Don't confuse &quot;this is not to my taste&quot; with &quot;this is bad&quot;. HoS is NOT a poor quality product. One or two bits apparently offend the overly mechanically inclined mindset of some posters. Gosh, a Vampire has 2 surges, OH NOZ!!!! The whole book is crap! The game is foundering! WotC is crumbling to dust! Sigh.Obviously they've had cutbacks and at some level they were told that in hard times you're going to have to bring up your ROI (or somesuch thing). Clearly they're trying to do more with less. They have Encounters, they have new online tools, more board games, etc. All with at best no new resources. So yeah, Dragon and Dungeon got pared back an bit and then they decided to rethink the production process there to align with where they're going, etc. The problem with comparing to the 3.x days is the industry was in both a happy time of peak RPG interest, the economy was relatively good, the industry hadn't really started to feel the most significant impacts of the digital revolution, etc. 4e exists in a doubtful time of change. Anyone with a lick of talent, the resources of WotC, and any common sense did well 8-10 years ago. Today you have some very excellent people over at WotC busting ass to make any headway at all in a much tougher environment and doing pretty well.The product is awesome. It is FAR from jumping the shark. When they start pumping out a dozen worthless broken supplements detailing stuff nobody cares about? Then they'll be in the shark jumping phase.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5531316, member: 82106"] Frankly I think the issue to a large extent is certain people wanted the game to go in a different direction than it has lately. Don't confuse "this is not to my taste" with "this is bad". HoS is NOT a poor quality product. One or two bits apparently offend the overly mechanically inclined mindset of some posters. Gosh, a Vampire has 2 surges, OH NOZ!!!! The whole book is crap! The game is foundering! WotC is crumbling to dust! Sigh. Obviously they've had cutbacks and at some level they were told that in hard times you're going to have to bring up your ROI (or somesuch thing). Clearly they're trying to do more with less. They have Encounters, they have new online tools, more board games, etc. All with at best no new resources. So yeah, Dragon and Dungeon got pared back an bit and then they decided to rethink the production process there to align with where they're going, etc. The problem with comparing to the 3.x days is the industry was in both a happy time of peak RPG interest, the economy was relatively good, the industry hadn't really started to feel the most significant impacts of the digital revolution, etc. 4e exists in a doubtful time of change. Anyone with a lick of talent, the resources of WotC, and any common sense did well 8-10 years ago. Today you have some very excellent people over at WotC busting ass to make any headway at all in a much tougher environment and doing pretty well. The product is awesome. It is FAR from jumping the shark. When they start pumping out a dozen worthless broken supplements detailing stuff nobody cares about? Then they'll be in the shark jumping phase. [/QUOTE]

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