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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5533814" data-attributes="member: 957">The biggest difference I see is that you are having a knee jerk reaction and not reading what is being said.4E is NOT "failing".DDI is making a very nice, steady stream of cash.But the market is deeply split now.  D&D as a brand could be doing vastly better than it is.  Again, we certainly don't know what WotC's goals were.  It may very well be "failing" at that.  But in a simple sideline observer sense, it is making money and not "failing".  4E detractors have said that in this very thread and I know I've said it very explicitly to you on more than one occasion.  Why are you unwilling to discuss the actual point instead of trying to misrepresent the other side?I also wonder, since we have no evidence whatsoever, according to you, how can you even claim anything you just claimed?I have no memory of that statement from Erik and I rather doubt it was said by him with anything approaching the same certainty and expectation that you did.wrong.  Your protests notwithstanding, I'm looking at a lot of information and rather than putting everything in the "all informative" stack or "completely and fully without merit" stack, actually considering the context and value of the pieces.  There is a lot of purely meaningless anecdotal and useless information out there.  And I throw that on the zero value stack just as you do.  I'm assessing what the the information we do have says.  You were basically expressing emotional wishful thinking.  It is not at all like what I'm doing now.OKStrings of unsupported, obviously biased anecdotes do not lead to anything resembling an informed conclusion.Happy?  That is certainly a true statement.  I agree with it 100%.Now, try this one:Useful information scattered amongst strings of unsupported, obviously biased anecdotes does not stop being useful.Can you say that?</blockquote>

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