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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5534003" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, again, let's not forget historical context either.&nbsp; 3e is released after several years of the largest economic growth in American history (and much the same in many other countries as well).&nbsp; 4e is released after several years of some of the poorest economic performance in a generation or two.&nbsp; Getting a passing grade on a luxury product when economic times are poor isn't a bad thing at all.&nbsp; Adequate in a time when many other companies are failing isn't too shabby.And, again, what is your benchmark?&nbsp; How good should 4e be doing to get a B grade?&nbsp; Or an A grade?&nbsp; 3e just released?&nbsp; Again, outside of the early 80's, D&amp;D has never reached that level.&nbsp; 3.5 certainly didn't.&nbsp; 2e didn't.&nbsp; And most of the time, 1e didn't as well.Why is &quot;doing adequately&quot; equated with &quot;dying hobby&quot;?&nbsp; I mean, modest growth or even static doesn't mean dying.&nbsp; Again, outside of about six years, the past 30 years of D&amp;D has not been fantastic sales, it's been mostly &quot;adequate&quot;. Again, there seems to be this disconnect.&nbsp; You and BryonD admit that WOTC is doing well with the DDI.&nbsp; That seems to be the case, although, again, big grain of salt time.&nbsp; You say that it's doing adequately, as in it's not losing money, but not making a whole lot either.But, if I'm still making a return on my investment that is better than what I'd get in the bank, why would I sell off the investment in a very poor economic time?&nbsp; Wouldn't it be much, much better to do what WOTC did and sell at the hottest time?&nbsp; Let's not forget, Hasbro didn't wait until WOTC was failing to buy the company.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5534003, member: 22779"] But, again, let's not forget historical context either. 3e is released after several years of the largest economic growth in American history (and much the same in many other countries as well). 4e is released after several years of some of the poorest economic performance in a generation or two. Getting a passing grade on a luxury product when economic times are poor isn't a bad thing at all. Adequate in a time when many other companies are failing isn't too shabby. And, again, what is your benchmark? How good should 4e be doing to get a B grade? Or an A grade? 3e just released? Again, outside of the early 80's, D&D has never reached that level. 3.5 certainly didn't. 2e didn't. And most of the time, 1e didn't as well. Why is "doing adequately" equated with "dying hobby"? I mean, modest growth or even static doesn't mean dying. Again, outside of about six years, the past 30 years of D&D has not been fantastic sales, it's been mostly "adequate". Again, there seems to be this disconnect. You and BryonD admit that WOTC is doing well with the DDI. That seems to be the case, although, again, big grain of salt time. You say that it's doing adequately, as in it's not losing money, but not making a whole lot either. But, if I'm still making a return on my investment that is better than what I'd get in the bank, why would I sell off the investment in a very poor economic time? Wouldn't it be much, much better to do what WOTC did and sell at the hottest time? Let's not forget, Hasbro didn't wait until WOTC was failing to buy the company. [/QUOTE]

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