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When did WotC D&D "Jump the Shark"?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5534681" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Oh, and that's totally fair Henry. Honestly, I haven't spent a dime on 4e since buying the core 3, so, WOTC lost me as a customer a long time ago. Then again, my RPG purchasing has dropped virtually every year over the past ten years, so this is not particularly surprising.</p><p></p><p>But, while it's totally valid to say that WOTC is not catering to you, it's not really all that valid to say that you are either A) a typical consumer (you might be, but, we don't know) and B) that your habits are indicative of anything other than your personal buying habits.</p><p></p><p>Even if we get fifty people together who say that their spending habits are the same as yours, it's not really indicative of anything other than on the Internet, we can find fifty people who agree with you. There might only be 51 people out there that agree with you and we just happened to find almost all of them.</p><p></p><p>Given that people are far, far more likely to complain than to post saying, "Hey, I've got a great game and no problems", there's just so much bias in the reporting.</p><p></p><p>And, just to jump to the other side of the fence for a while, I totally agree that WOTC could be doing a lot more to engage fans. I'm really rather staggered that they are not doing so. I wonder if the orders have come down from on high after all the hooply and fruforol that surrounded the launch where any statement made by a WOTC employee was dissected down to the angstrom in the search for yet another thing to be pissed off about. I wonder if the decision was made to not engage with fans in an uncontrolled medium where anything of value just got buried under so much crap.</p><p></p><p>I think it's not a good idea. But, I wonder if they decided that the goodwill they could gain from engaging people would be just lost under the mountain of vitriol that gets spewed every time they poke their head up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5534681, member: 22779"] Oh, and that's totally fair Henry. Honestly, I haven't spent a dime on 4e since buying the core 3, so, WOTC lost me as a customer a long time ago. Then again, my RPG purchasing has dropped virtually every year over the past ten years, so this is not particularly surprising. But, while it's totally valid to say that WOTC is not catering to you, it's not really all that valid to say that you are either A) a typical consumer (you might be, but, we don't know) and B) that your habits are indicative of anything other than your personal buying habits. Even if we get fifty people together who say that their spending habits are the same as yours, it's not really indicative of anything other than on the Internet, we can find fifty people who agree with you. There might only be 51 people out there that agree with you and we just happened to find almost all of them. Given that people are far, far more likely to complain than to post saying, "Hey, I've got a great game and no problems", there's just so much bias in the reporting. And, just to jump to the other side of the fence for a while, I totally agree that WOTC could be doing a lot more to engage fans. I'm really rather staggered that they are not doing so. I wonder if the orders have come down from on high after all the hooply and fruforol that surrounded the launch where any statement made by a WOTC employee was dissected down to the angstrom in the search for yet another thing to be pissed off about. I wonder if the decision was made to not engage with fans in an uncontrolled medium where anything of value just got buried under so much crap. I think it's not a good idea. But, I wonder if they decided that the goodwill they could gain from engaging people would be just lost under the mountain of vitriol that gets spewed every time they poke their head up. [/QUOTE]
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