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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5535753" data-attributes="member: 957">No, what is my perception is that this is a common perception.  If it is not a common perception then I stand corrected.  But I think it is.  But if you think I'm asking other people to justify something that purely I see, then that was simply a poor job of expressing the idea on my part.It is vastly harder to compare the popularity of a game now to the popularity of a game 4 to 5 years ago.  No doubt and I don't claim anything to the contrary.As I have said many times before, when they announced 4E, I was a supporter Day 1, when the most common reaction was "money grubbers want me to buy the rules again...."  Because to me it was clear that 3E had lived its life and was on the down slope.With PF it seems that they have really breathed an amazing vitality back into it, and by "it" I guess I mean both the game system itself and the fan base as well.Maybe with the time between the two I'm simply confusing direction of motion with relative position.  Could be.  But I'm under the impression that a lot of other people see it this way as well.  And it is at least interesting to note whatever level it was at, that level motivated WotC to move on.  And yet now that game that wasn't doing well enough for for WotC is now in the ballpark of neck and neck with WotC's new game.  So either PF is doing somewhat better than 3E was in the end, or 4E is already doing no better than 3E was in the end.</blockquote>

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