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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5537507" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>[MENTION=957]BryonD[/MENTION] I don't think there is actually massive discontent amongst 4e players at WotC at all. I think if you go back and look at the 3.5 boards there was equal amounts of complaining about trivial mechanical details then as well. Given that there are rarely large issues to complain about 4e you simply see people jumping on all the smallest things like if a class has one more or less HS than it should and nonsense like that. The system is solid enough that you can actually see those small differences and they mean something you can measure. With 3.5 there was no point in even bothering, the issues were much more high level and much bigger.</p><p></p><p>Likewise DDI. Since people are paying for it on a monthly basis they naturally are quite picky about it. Mostly DDI has been quite excellent. They were ill-advised to remove the old CB when they did, but that aside DDI has been nothing but great. Some concern about magazine article quality/quantity was certainly understandable but notice they seem to have been well aware of that and have repeatedly stated it is going in the other direction now. Of course DDI really shouldn't be an issue anyway. It is a pure PLUS on the side of 4e, if you don't like it you don't buy it. No amount of complaining about it really reflects on the game system at all.</p><p></p><p>So, no, I don't think people are particularly dissatisfied about 4e or with WotC right now. I think they are the same insufferably unpleasable Internet rabble as ever! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5537507, member: 82106"] [MENTION=957]BryonD[/MENTION] I don't think there is actually massive discontent amongst 4e players at WotC at all. I think if you go back and look at the 3.5 boards there was equal amounts of complaining about trivial mechanical details then as well. Given that there are rarely large issues to complain about 4e you simply see people jumping on all the smallest things like if a class has one more or less HS than it should and nonsense like that. The system is solid enough that you can actually see those small differences and they mean something you can measure. With 3.5 there was no point in even bothering, the issues were much more high level and much bigger. Likewise DDI. Since people are paying for it on a monthly basis they naturally are quite picky about it. Mostly DDI has been quite excellent. They were ill-advised to remove the old CB when they did, but that aside DDI has been nothing but great. Some concern about magazine article quality/quantity was certainly understandable but notice they seem to have been well aware of that and have repeatedly stated it is going in the other direction now. Of course DDI really shouldn't be an issue anyway. It is a pure PLUS on the side of 4e, if you don't like it you don't buy it. No amount of complaining about it really reflects on the game system at all. So, no, I don't think people are particularly dissatisfied about 4e or with WotC right now. I think they are the same insufferably unpleasable Internet rabble as ever! ;) [/QUOTE]
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