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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fifth Element" data-source="post: 5537509" data-attributes="member: 48135">And I'm not hung up on semantics; that's what I mean by prove in a case like this.I've looked at every bit of evidence you've offered, and found it seriously lacking. You keep referring to the data as if it's something well-established and easily interpretable. It's not. Everything that I've seen you present relies on one's point of view to arrive at a conclusion. That is, if you think there's a split, you'll see a split. But I haven't seen anything really solid to say one way or the other with any certainty.You've agreed that some overlap exists between 4E and PF players, for example. You've apparently decided that that overlap is small enough that a deep split exists, even though we have no way of knowing what the degree of overlap is.In my group, the overlap is 100%, since we all play both 4E and PF. Now there's no way that's the case for everyone, but I wouldn't make a conjecture about what the percentage is for the market as a whole, without some sort of actual research being done. It could be 2%. It could be 50%. We don't know. Selectively collecting a few anecdotes and arriving at a conclusion on that results in a baseless conclusion.</blockquote>