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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5538427" data-attributes="member: 22779">How many blind guys are we talking about though?&nbsp; I mean, in that thread that you are referencing, there was another blind guy who owns this site arguing that 4e has been very, very good to him.Again, why is Blackdiamond getting those particular results?&nbsp; What is the context?&nbsp; Is he the only gaming store in his location?&nbsp; Is there another gaming store that 4e gamers regularly go to?&nbsp; Is his store a bastion of WOTC hate?&nbsp; Or, is it that 4e just isn't that strong in his area and Pathfinder is doing great?None of these questions got answered.&nbsp; No context beyond, &quot;I like Game X and Game X is doing well in my area&quot; was given.There's an elephant in the room all right, and it smells to high heaven.Again, you claim that there is a deep split in the fan base.&nbsp; It's the DEEP part that I dispute, not the existence of a split.&nbsp; Disputing the existence of a split would be pretty stupid all things considered.&nbsp; Some people didn't like 4e and went to Pathfinder.&nbsp; Yup, I agree with that.&nbsp; That's pretty much obviously true.How many?&nbsp; Until you can answer that with anything more than gut reaction, then your characterization of &quot;deep&quot; is nothing more than you claiming the tail is a snake.&nbsp; Getting ten random people on the Internet to agree with you doesn't exactly entail anything close to fact.&nbsp; Particularly when it's been pretty clearly shown that the anecdotes are almost universally self-selecting.Hey, you can believe whatever you like.&nbsp; That's most certainly your right.&nbsp; But, I really cannot see how you can claim anything resembling facts in that belief.Me?&nbsp; Personally?&nbsp; I have no idea.&nbsp; Could be true.&nbsp; Might not be.&nbsp; I'll sit up here on my fence, where I've pretty much parked my keister for the past year or so.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5538427, member: 22779"] How many blind guys are we talking about though? I mean, in that thread that you are referencing, there was another blind guy who owns this site arguing that 4e has been very, very good to him. Again, why is Blackdiamond getting those particular results? What is the context? Is he the only gaming store in his location? Is there another gaming store that 4e gamers regularly go to? Is his store a bastion of WOTC hate? Or, is it that 4e just isn't that strong in his area and Pathfinder is doing great? None of these questions got answered. No context beyond, "I like Game X and Game X is doing well in my area" was given. There's an elephant in the room all right, and it smells to high heaven. Again, you claim that there is a [b][u]deep[/u][/b] split in the fan base. It's the DEEP part that I dispute, not the existence of a split. Disputing the existence of a split would be pretty stupid all things considered. Some people didn't like 4e and went to Pathfinder. Yup, I agree with that. That's pretty much obviously true. How many? Until you can answer that with anything more than gut reaction, then your characterization of "deep" is nothing more than you claiming the tail is a snake. Getting ten random people on the Internet to agree with you doesn't exactly entail anything close to fact. Particularly when it's been pretty clearly shown that the anecdotes are almost universally self-selecting. Hey, you can believe whatever you like. That's most certainly your right. But, I really cannot see how you can claim anything resembling facts in that belief. Me? Personally? I have no idea. Could be true. Might not be. I'll sit up here on my fence, where I've pretty much parked my keister for the past year or so. [/QUOTE]

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