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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5538434" data-attributes="member: 82106">I think the problem is nobody here is saying PF doesn't sell as well as 4e. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, but the little we can gather from any or all sources of evidence is just that they're both top selling RPGs. We don't know what whatever Black Diamond says means. We don't know how many people prefer which game or both games or for that matter neither.What we have are a bunch of blind men feeling around, sure. The problem is if one feels a leg and one feels a trunk and one feels a tail then someone might say &quot;aha that has to be an elephant!&quot; but that doesn't mean it IS an elephant. You're LOOKING FOR AN ELEPHANT and finding one. Maybe its a tree, a snake, and a rope. Finally, it just doesn't matter all that much. 4e is a good game (or the devil's spawn if you prefer) and OBVIOUSLY WotC isn't giving up and abandoning the game. They sure aren't showing any signs of doing that this year, that's for sure. If they were they'd have given a bunch of their staff the boot, eh. Never once has the existence or non-existence of PF made any difference to me. If there's some vast quantity of people that are 'divided' from me and won't play 4e with me you're going to have to come over here and show me those people, because they simply don't exist in my experience. I don't even really care what happens in some other place, but given the obvious popularity of 4e I'm not real concerned that I'd be able to find players anywhere I'm likely to go.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5538434, member: 82106"] I think the problem is nobody here is saying PF doesn't sell as well as 4e. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, but the little we can gather from any or all sources of evidence is just that they're both top selling RPGs. We don't know what whatever Black Diamond says means. We don't know how many people prefer which game or both games or for that matter neither. What we have are a bunch of blind men feeling around, sure. The problem is if one feels a leg and one feels a trunk and one feels a tail then someone might say "aha that has to be an elephant!" but that doesn't mean it IS an elephant. You're LOOKING FOR AN ELEPHANT and finding one. Maybe its a tree, a snake, and a rope. Finally, it just doesn't matter all that much. 4e is a good game (or the devil's spawn if you prefer) and OBVIOUSLY WotC isn't giving up and abandoning the game. They sure aren't showing any signs of doing that this year, that's for sure. If they were they'd have given a bunch of their staff the boot, eh. Never once has the existence or non-existence of PF made any difference to me. If there's some vast quantity of people that are 'divided' from me and won't play 4e with me you're going to have to come over here and show me those people, because they simply don't exist in my experience. I don't even really care what happens in some other place, but given the obvious popularity of 4e I'm not real concerned that I'd be able to find players anywhere I'm likely to go. [/QUOTE]

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