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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5538572" data-attributes="member: 19675">...some stayed with 3.5Ed and don't support either game; some abandoned all of the D20 family and are happily playing some other system.Just sayin'.****From my point of view, inferring that there is a deep split is...problematic.On the one hand, PF sales as reported by outlets like Amazon and Black Diamond are indicative of a product that latched onto a large and unsatisfied market demographic- you typically wouldn't see those kinds of numbers from a completely new product that didn't have some kind of "in."But they are also snapshots of the data: the companies with the whole pictures aren't giving up the full 411.And aditionally, the nature of the products is such that most consumers in the market don't view purchasing them as a binary decision.  Just because one buys 4Ed does not mean one may not also be a fan of PF.Still, though, there are many for whom 4Ed is such a radical departure from their expectations of D&D gaming that, to this day, the game itself makes them angry.  To them, it is a betrayal.  And THAT, to me, is indicative that the divide is very deep indeed.IOW, whether the divide is "deep" rather depends on what you mean by that word.</blockquote>