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<blockquote data-quote="Fifth Element" data-source="post: 5539279" data-attributes="member: 48135">Once more: the party making the positive assertion has the onus of evidence placed upon it. I am not making a particular argument, specifically because I do not believe there is sufficient evidence to make such an argument.Is that clear now?I'm not offering a rebuttal, I'm suggesting you have not defined &quot;in the same ballpark&quot; such that it has any meaning. I can't rebut an opinion, which (it seems to me) is all you've provided.For example, you could be saying that 4E and PF are in the same ballpark, and are very close to each other, and the third-ranked RPG is very far out of the ballpark. Or you could be saying that PF is just barely in the same ballpark as 4E, and the third-ranked game is just outside the ballpark, such that it's closer to PF than PF is to 4E. I don't know, because you haven't provided any meaningful points of comparison, just a lot of &quot;it seems&quot; and nebulous terms.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fifth Element, post: 5539279, member: 48135"] Once more: the party making the positive assertion has the onus of evidence placed upon it. I am not making a particular argument, specifically because I do not believe there is sufficient evidence to make such an argument. Is that clear now? I'm not offering a rebuttal, I'm suggesting you have not defined "in the same ballpark" such that it has any meaning. I can't rebut an opinion, which (it seems to me) is all you've provided. For example, you could be saying that 4E and PF are in the same ballpark, and are very close to each other, and the third-ranked RPG is very far out of the ballpark. Or you could be saying that PF is just barely in the same ballpark as 4E, and the third-ranked game is just outside the ballpark, such that it's closer to PF than PF is to 4E. I don't know, because you haven't provided any meaningful points of comparison, just a lot of "it seems" and nebulous terms. [/QUOTE]

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