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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 7838229" data-attributes="member: 19857">I've never done a bait-and-switch.&nbsp; I've had players tell me horror stories about DMs pulling a few: &quot;it's actually a holodeck simulation on the Enterprise&quot;, &quot;everyone has actually been dead all along and the game world is actually hell&quot;, and &quot;you wake up and come out of your sleeping pods into a post-apocalyptic world&quot;.&nbsp; None of them were appreciated by the players in them (though to be fair they were all from High School games where everyone thinks they're more clever than they really are, so some of the complaints were less about &quot;bait and switch&quot; and more about how dumb they felt the plot twist was).The closest I've had is something along the lines of what [USER=177]@Umbran[/USER] described - I was a player in a game where we thought we were playing in a Kolchack the Night Stalker or Forever Knight inspired game using WoD rules and it turned out instead that our GM wanted to run a Wraith game and when the opportunity arose killed off our characters and had us make ghosts to run instead.&nbsp; But we all were warned that the campaign could shift radically when we started - most of us thought he intended to shift it into a Vampire game and he was doing an extended origin story for us as an experiment - so we weren't really upset by it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jer, post: 7838229, member: 19857"] I've never done a bait-and-switch. I've had players tell me horror stories about DMs pulling a few: "it's actually a holodeck simulation on the Enterprise", "everyone has actually been dead all along and the game world is actually hell", and "you wake up and come out of your sleeping pods into a post-apocalyptic world". None of them were appreciated by the players in them (though to be fair they were all from High School games where everyone thinks they're more clever than they really are, so some of the complaints were less about "bait and switch" and more about how dumb they felt the plot twist was). The closest I've had is something along the lines of what [USER=177]@Umbran[/USER] described - I was a player in a game where we thought we were playing in a Kolchack the Night Stalker or Forever Knight inspired game using WoD rules and it turned out instead that our GM wanted to run a Wraith game and when the opportunity arose killed off our characters and had us make ghosts to run instead. But we all were warned that the campaign could shift radically when we started - most of us thought he intended to shift it into a Vampire game and he was doing an extended origin story for us as an experiment - so we weren't really upset by it. [/QUOTE]

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