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<blockquote data-quote="Xorn" data-source="post: 4275050" data-attributes="member: 61231">As far as Perception/Insight, I use their passive values at all times (general awareness when on alert), unless they specifically want to examine something.&nbsp; Examples: &quot;While Percy is looking at that chest, I'm going to watch the entrance to the cavern for any new arrivals.&quot;&nbsp; (Omar rolls a perception check blindly--I have a little door on my DM screen so they can roll without seeing the result--and if that's better than a passive check for him, I'll use that number.)orAfter describing the room they chased a kobold into as 20x20, rough carved stone, with a smoldering brazier on the east wall, and a pile of leaves and sticks arranged like a bed near it, and some sacks on the northwest corner.&nbsp; You don't see the kobold anywhere in the room.&nbsp; (He fled through a secret door, DC20 to spot it.)&quot;I'll check the sacks for the shifty bastard.&quot;&nbsp; (I have him roll, and describe the bags with more detail.)&quot;Well if he's not there, then he must have used a secret passage... search the walls for a seam or opening.&quot;&nbsp; (I have him roll again, applying a circumstance bonus for his deduction.)If their ranger had been level 2 (+10 perception) then she would have spotted the door the moment they could look around.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Xorn, post: 4275050, member: 61231"] As far as Perception/Insight, I use their passive values at all times (general awareness when on alert), unless they specifically want to examine something. Examples: "While Percy is looking at that chest, I'm going to watch the entrance to the cavern for any new arrivals." (Omar rolls a perception check blindly--I have a little door on my DM screen so they can roll without seeing the result--and if that's better than a passive check for him, I'll use that number.) or After describing the room they chased a kobold into as 20x20, rough carved stone, with a smoldering brazier on the east wall, and a pile of leaves and sticks arranged like a bed near it, and some sacks on the northwest corner. You don't see the kobold anywhere in the room. (He fled through a secret door, DC20 to spot it.) "I'll check the sacks for the shifty bastard." (I have him roll, and describe the bags with more detail.) "Well if he's not there, then he must have used a secret passage... search the walls for a seam or opening." (I have him roll again, applying a circumstance bonus for his deduction.) If their ranger had been level 2 (+10 perception) then she would have spotted the door the moment they could look around. [/QUOTE]

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