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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 2642152" data-attributes="member: 22779">Out of curiousity, how much background do you expect from your players and how much do you provide for your DM?  I generally expect about a page worth of info.  Where are you from, what motivates you, what goals do you have.  That's about it.  I don't expect ten page essays detailing every detail of someone's characters.  Actually, on the one occassion that I had a player who handed me ten double sided hand written pages of background, I immedietely handed it back and told her to give me the Cole's notes version.  I have neither the inclination nor the fortitude to plow through something like that.  If you cannot break your character down in about five hundred words, I don't really want to read it.It is not my role as DM to bring up character goals and points in the game.  I see that as the player's role to pursue those goals.  I will facilitate that pursuit, but, I will do nothing to initiate it.  I've found that as soon as I don't wrap my entire campaign around the wishes of the "role player's" fantasies, they soon forget about their backgrounds and then complain about not being the center of attention.  My response is, "If you are hunting the killers of your third cousin's cat, then YOU should be dealing with it, not me.  You have not once brought it up to the party, so I see no reason why I should."But then, that's just me.  I actually had one player actually write the words (Plot Hook) into various parts of his character's background.  Sorry, your character is YOUR responsibility, not mine.  If you want to pursue some goal, then by all means do so.  But, I have no idea why players expect me as the DM to bring up their personal goals in the game.Sorry, wandered pretty far off topic.</blockquote>

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