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<blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 2651437" data-attributes="member: 12037"><p>I think you don't understand the odds involved here. This would be the Players rolling about 1000 natural 1s back to back with the chipmunk rolling about 100 natural 20s back to back. And, even then the PCs could still win if they had any spells or special abilities left for the day. No, a year or so down the line that will make the most amazing story of all time!</p><p></p><p>One of the most hillarious stories from my games is the time a PC was killed by a young street urchin who got a lucky double critical and killed him. It was some random encounter that didn't mean anything, something I threw in for a city encounter, some 14 year old pick pocket who grabbed 2 daggers when cornered and BAM!</p><p></p><p>He was raised in two minutes real time by his Faction.</p><p></p><p>And, that wasn't likely. But, it was in no way in the extreme odds that it would take a chipmunk or squirrel could kill a 1st level PC. Look at cat in the SRD. 2 hp. 1 damage on hits. No reach. Grapple of -12. 14 AC. Now take a group of four 2nd level PCs. Wanna calculate the odds that a cat can kill <em>one</em> of them? All of them is basically impossible. You act like this is actually something that happens.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What are you talking about? You say non-sensical, but I have no idea what you mean. If you mean the chipmunk example, it isn't going to happen. You seem to be taking impossible events and turning them into reasons to fudge. Name a non-sensical situation that even has a 10% chance of occuring to me during my lifetime, okay?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThirdWizard, post: 2651437, member: 12037"] I think you don't understand the odds involved here. This would be the Players rolling about 1000 natural 1s back to back with the chipmunk rolling about 100 natural 20s back to back. And, even then the PCs could still win if they had any spells or special abilities left for the day. No, a year or so down the line that will make the most amazing story of all time! One of the most hillarious stories from my games is the time a PC was killed by a young street urchin who got a lucky double critical and killed him. It was some random encounter that didn't mean anything, something I threw in for a city encounter, some 14 year old pick pocket who grabbed 2 daggers when cornered and BAM! He was raised in two minutes real time by his Faction. And, that wasn't likely. But, it was in no way in the extreme odds that it would take a chipmunk or squirrel could kill a 1st level PC. Look at cat in the SRD. 2 hp. 1 damage on hits. No reach. Grapple of -12. 14 AC. Now take a group of four 2nd level PCs. Wanna calculate the odds that a cat can kill [I]one[/I] of them? All of them is basically impossible. You act like this is actually something that happens. What are you talking about? You say non-sensical, but I have no idea what you mean. If you mean the chipmunk example, it isn't going to happen. You seem to be taking impossible events and turning them into reasons to fudge. Name a non-sensical situation that even has a 10% chance of occuring to me during my lifetime, okay? [/QUOTE]
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