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<blockquote data-quote="Celestian" data-source="post: 5970750" data-attributes="member: 394">At 3e the game because less like D&amp;D that I was prepared to play. I cannot really name specific things that make it &quot;not D&amp;D&quot; but a few things stand out to me. DCs, saves and multi-classing. All those things in 3e really changed the game dramatically. Ascending AC, BaB and spontaneous spell conversion (cleric convert a non-heal to a heal spell) were good changes. OGL, rocked. Allowed us to get OSRIC and S&amp;W.4e was even more dramatically different. Infact I really do not think it was D&amp;D at all. It was a new game, much like a board game, that had a D&amp;D label on it.I have played since the red box, most of my time in AD&amp;D. I still play AD&amp;D and will probably continue to play AD&amp;D. I have added many of the things I liked from the other versions to my game.I cannot really say if 5e will draw me and my group in but we will look at it. Steal what we like if there is anything there but if all they do is mash 3e+4e it will not be something we use. I do not expect them to cater to me. I am just happy they did the 1e book reprints and hope that is a sign they are planning to continue supporting (at least print wise) some of the older editions going forward.So for me? D&amp;D stopped being D&amp;D at 4e but it did not stop me from playing D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celestian, post: 5970750, member: 394"] At 3e the game because less like D&D that I was prepared to play. I cannot really name specific things that make it "not D&D" but a few things stand out to me. DCs, saves and multi-classing. All those things in 3e really changed the game dramatically. Ascending AC, BaB and spontaneous spell conversion (cleric convert a non-heal to a heal spell) were good changes. OGL, rocked. Allowed us to get OSRIC and S&W. 4e was even more dramatically different. Infact I really do not think it was D&D at all. It was a new game, much like a board game, that had a D&D label on it. I have played since the red box, most of my time in AD&D. I still play AD&D and will probably continue to play AD&D. I have added many of the things I liked from the other versions to my game. I cannot really say if 5e will draw me and my group in but we will look at it. Steal what we like if there is anything there but if all they do is mash 3e+4e it will not be something we use. I do not expect them to cater to me. I am just happy they did the 1e book reprints and hope that is a sign they are planning to continue supporting (at least print wise) some of the older editions going forward. So for me? D&D stopped being D&D at 4e but it did not stop me from playing D&D. [/QUOTE]

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