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<blockquote data-quote="kramis" data-source="post: 105701" data-attributes="member: 2084">Surprise rounds and stuffSeems like some people are confusing and mixing up different rules. As usual, run it however you feel like in your own campaign, especially since some of the particulars of the rules here can be a bit ambiguous.In my campaign, I will usually try to have an invisible opponent &quot;surprise&quot; the visible one they are attacking. What this means is there is a surprise round, ie the attacker gets 1 &quot;free&quot; partial action with all the invisibility bonuses. Then they both roll initiative for the next round. In some circumstances, if the players make a good case for it, I may be inclined to grant a circumstance bonuse to the formerly invisible character's initiative roll, but not too often.It gets more complicated in a battle with multiple opponents and one invisible character. The way I handled it when the invisible player had an opportunity for multiple attacks while invisible was the first attack was with all the bonuses, and the rest were normal. The rational was the opponent was already in combat and being in heightened state of readiness was able to react better to the subsequent attacks. The invisible players received the extra attacks since the visible opponent was engaged with other adversaries at the time.This seemed both balanced and in line with the rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kramis, post: 105701, member: 2084"] [b]Surprise rounds and stuff[/b] Seems like some people are confusing and mixing up different rules. As usual, run it however you feel like in your own campaign, especially since some of the particulars of the rules here can be a bit ambiguous. In my campaign, I will usually try to have an invisible opponent "surprise" the visible one they are attacking. What this means is there is a surprise round, ie the attacker gets 1 "free" partial action with all the invisibility bonuses. Then they both roll initiative for the next round. In some circumstances, if the players make a good case for it, I may be inclined to grant a circumstance bonuse to the formerly invisible character's initiative roll, but not too often. It gets more complicated in a battle with multiple opponents and one invisible character. The way I handled it when the invisible player had an opportunity for multiple attacks while invisible was the first attack was with all the bonuses, and the rest were normal. The rational was the opponent was already in combat and being in heightened state of readiness was able to react better to the subsequent attacks. The invisible players received the extra attacks since the visible opponent was engaged with other adversaries at the time. This seemed both balanced and in line with the rules. [/QUOTE]

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