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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 105712" data-attributes="member: 284">Re: Re: invis vs flat footedThis is incorrect.&nbsp;&nbsp; Being flat-footed is not the samething as losing your dex bonus when being attack by an invisible opponent.&nbsp; Being flat-footed is the state that only occurs during the first round of combat.&nbsp; When flat-footed you can't make AoO's and you lose your Dex bonus to AC.&nbsp; Being flat-footed is specified as lasting until your first initiative count.A rogue/barbarian can still be flat-footed, even though they retain their dex bonus to AC.&nbsp; For them, it just means that they can't make AoO's until their turn comes up. When faced with an invisible attacker you lose your Dex bonus to AC (but only against that attacker), and&nbsp; the attacker get's a +2 on their attack.&nbsp;&nbsp; However, you can still make AoO's.&nbsp; &nbsp; It's a different condition than being flat-footed, although it shares the quality of causing you to lose your Dex bonus to AC.&nbsp;&nbsp; Nowhere does it specify that being attacked by an invisible attack causes you to lose your Dex past that first attack (unlessy ou are dealing with improved invisibility).&nbsp;&nbsp; Nowhere.The only time an invisible attacker can catch their opponent flat-footed is during the first round of combat (and/or the suprise round).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 105712, member: 284"] [b]Re: Re: invis vs flat footed[/b] This is incorrect. Being flat-footed is not the samething as losing your dex bonus when being attack by an invisible opponent. Being flat-footed is the state that only occurs during the first round of combat. When flat-footed you can't make AoO's and you lose your Dex bonus to AC. Being flat-footed is specified as lasting until your first initiative count. A rogue/barbarian can still be flat-footed, even though they retain their dex bonus to AC. For them, it just means that they can't make AoO's until their turn comes up. When faced with an invisible attacker you lose your Dex bonus to AC (but only against that attacker), and the attacker get's a +2 on their attack. However, you can still make AoO's. It's a different condition than being flat-footed, although it shares the quality of causing you to lose your Dex bonus to AC. Nowhere does it specify that being attacked by an invisible attack causes you to lose your Dex past that first attack (unlessy ou are dealing with [i]improved invisibility[/i]). Nowhere. The only time an invisible attacker can catch their opponent flat-footed is during the first round of combat (and/or the suprise round). [/QUOTE]

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