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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 105879" data-attributes="member: 2011">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: invis vs flat footedI did read all of what you wrote. You waffled. You said it could be either way and I quote:I disagree. It can only be one way due to the other rules which force the conditions of the combat to change between attacks within the full round attack option such as a character going prone, or your first attack trip affecting the AC of your opponent for subsequent attacks.The character using the Full Round Attack option does NOT get to decide when and how combat conditions change, the results of his attack determine that.His first attack trip attack knocks his opponent down immediately so that his subsequent full round attacks are at +4.His first attack while invisible attack negates his invisibility so that his subsequent full round attacks are not at +2 and his opponent no longer loses his dexterity.Ditto for when a Monk successfully does a Stunning fist on the first attack of a full round attack. His opponent is stunned for his subsequent full round attacks.Ditto for when a Sorcerer holding a Vampiric Touch successfully hits with it, he gains his temporary hit points before his potential next attack within a Full Round Attack, but if he tries to punch with a second attack, the second attack is no longer considered “armed” unless he has Improved Unarmed Strike. If he doesn’t, it might be good that he has those extra temporary hits because his opponent would get an AoO.If your first attack of a full round attack sequence kills the Summoned creature and it immediately vanishes, how do you even get to attempt two more attacks at it?The point is that it cannot go either way since there are combat condition rules that take precedence as soon as combat results occur, even within the full round attack action.My point in my last message is that there is no one sentence that says this, you have to look at the overall rules to determine this.Btw, you have been handling it correctly as per the overall rules.</blockquote>

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